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celestially speaking, we no have reason to believe that we know with any certainty that the orientation of our solar system is correct with the northern hemisphere above the southern.
it began around the time of ptolemy. european (northern hemisphere) scientists placed the earth at the center of the universe and the people of europe were oriented upward (not upside-down)
in time, it became painfully clear (more so for some) that the earth was not the center. but, we refused to accept that the northern hemisphere (north side in da house) was not the top of the world.
but now, since the relation of the poles is completely arbitrary, scientist have reached a compromise in the area of celestial equality. since the time of ptolemy our solar system has been represented as a horizontal disc with the north on the top side and the south on the butt side. henceforth, in all illustrations, toy models, and discovery channel animations will represent our solar system as a vertical disc thus placing the north and south poles on an equal level.
**slight edit to account for a word omission**
In certain parts of the Southern hemisphere, you can buy maps where the South pole is at the top.
Posted By: teterwe have reason to believe that we know with any certainty that...
I don't get what this construction is supposed to convey. The word 'any' doesn't make sense to me there.
Posted By: teterwe refused to accept that the northern hemisphere (north side in da house) was not the top of the world.
Er -- who is 'we'? And, as you reference further down, it's arbitrary. It's become a convention. 'accept that it is not the top'? Neither is intrinsically correct.
sorry, meant to say..."we have no reason"...
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by "we" i meant the "grand we" (not to be confused with the esteemed mr. jeremy) as in humans of the time. the result was the birth of what is now the convention.
It probably ties in to the flat world theory - since the people who started naming things assumed they were on top of a flat plate, it logically follows that that's the "up" side.
Logically East should be at the top of the map. If we look at this from an outer-space perspective then the bit of the planet that is just heaving into site should be at the top. However we would need to pick an arbitrary top and I think the International dateline fits the bill. Since there is almost no land there, the distortion of a Mercator projection would be far less than our traditional bipolar view.
Some of the school maps here in Canada have the Americas in the center. As well as Canada sized proportionately to the U.S.. They always look the same size on U.S. Maps
Uh, Canada and the US *are* the same size, both just under 10 million square kilometers. Canada is only about 1% larger -- not even noticable to the eye. However, that 1% is just water -- Canada is 9% water surface versus 7% of the U.S.. So, in terms of actual land, it's actually the U.S. that is slightly larger. So there, Canuks! We're # 2!
You're probably thinking of the Mercanter projection (which keeps lattitude undistorted) where Canada appears MUCH larger than the US versus something like the Peters' projection (which keeps area undistorted) where they would appear the same size.
That'll teach me to rely on my memory.
You'll do well to remember that.
Remember what?
Posted By: PaulustriousHowever we would need to pick an arbitrary top and I think the International dateline fits the bill. Since there is almost no land there, the distortion of a Mercator projection would be far less than our traditional bipolar view.
That works, except for the part where the IDL moves all over the place to keep parts of one country all on the same date (like the Aleutian islands).
Anyone ever live right next to a time zone line? I expect there must be a lot of people who commute from one time zone to another every day for work. I think that would be weird but then again, people get used to all sorts of weird things. Just look at the last 8 years of Dubyah.
You just inspired me to do some research with the Census Department, and I discovered that there are at least 37 U.S. citizens that commute daily across the International Date Line.
Now I know a little of what Jesus must've felt -- being an inspiration and all.
I want to make a website called "askjeevus.com".....it's like WWJD, only Jeeves style!
(that was a retarded attempt at humor. Forgive me.)
Posted By: tossedoffabridgeI want to make a website called "askjeevus.com".....it's like WWJD, only Jeeves style!
(that was a retarded attempt at humor. Forgive me.)
a holy incarnation of it used to exist: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~dcf21/test/jesus.cgi
i believe it is your divine purpose to perform a resurrection.
Posted By: Fact totumAnyone ever live right next to a time zone line? I expect there must be a lot of people who commute from one time zone to another every day for work. I think that would be weird but then again, people get used to all sorts of weird things. Just look at the last 8 years of Dubyah.
My brother did for a while - he lived right on the border between Alabama and Georgia, so every time he crossed the bridge he was in a different time zone.
Let's do the time warp again.
Transexual, Transilvania
It's just a jump to the left...
Posted By: tossedoffabridgeI want to make a website called "askjeevus.com".....it's like WWJD, only Jeeves style!
(that was a retarded attempt at humor. Forgive me.)
I can forgive a lot, but askjeevus? NOW YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR!
I imagined you as Robin Williams...yeah, little comedy segment I have on my iPooed. It's funny.
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