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    "The latest target of an RIAA suit is NASA, for playing copyrighted music over space shuttle air-to-ground communications, which are public frequencies. NASA traditionally plays wake-up songs to astronauts each morning."

    I have searched all over and the only reference I have found are people quoting the "fact" from gullible.info
    Do you have any source online that can substantiate this claim?

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007
     

    Online sources are notoriously unreliable.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007
     
    Posted By: Fact totum

    Online sources are notoriously unreliable.

    Everything on the internet is true.

    Hmm, now this puts us in a bituvva pickle, no?

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007
     
    Posted By: Fact totum

    Online sources are notoriously unreliable.

    Along with every source.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007
     
    Posted By: Haoest

    Along with every source.

    Why should I believe you??

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007
     
    Posted By: Fact totum
    Posted By: Haoest

    Along with every source.

    Why should I believe you??

    Because he's telling the truth.

    I'll show you my source if you like.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: Trance

    Because he's telling the truth.

    So says you!

    Posted By: Trance

    I'll show you my source if you like.

    Yeah? What is it? <dripping with disdain and sarcasm>Wikipedia??</dripping with disdain and sarcasm>

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007
     

    Wikipedia? Yeah right!

    I used Wikihow, all the cool kids do. Don't you? *sniggers*

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007 edited
     

    Jeez, you guys aren't being very helpful to "akrazyrunner"...

    I looked at the research notes attached to that fact, and they were very simple: a copy of the suit _RIAA v. NASA_, filed in the 5th District Court on April 27, 2007, docket # AG-2007-345-12T. I don't know if those are available online or not, though. As near as I can tell based on the filings (I'm not a lawyer), they are still in the discovery phase and only two depositions have been taken.

    If you need them for some useful purpose, just send me your FAX number and I can fax them to you. There's only 57 pages, so it's not too big.

    • CommentAuthornicaboker
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2007
     

    So, RIAA has realized that they can't actually sue the average Joe because he can sit behind a router and use NAT, so they are taking on a government agency. Whats next, they sue themselves because someone brings in a cd with music on it that someone burned in the office?

    • CommentAuthorwwbwb9636
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2007
     

    I'd like to see that.

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      CommentAuthorYika
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2007
     

    I like new people that join :)

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2007
     
    Posted By: Taed

    Jeez, you guys aren't being very helpful to "akrazyrunner"...

    I looked at the research notes attached to that fact, and they were very simple: a copy of the suit _RIAA v. NASA_, filed in the 5th District Court on April 27, 2007, docket # AG-2007-345-12T. I don't know if those are available online or not, though. As near as I can tell based on the filings (I'm not a lawyer), they are still in the discovery phase and only two depositions have been taken.

    If you need them for some useful purpose, just send me your FAX number and I can fax them to you. There's only 57 pages, so it's not too big.

    Yes, it's estimated that it takes the US justice system approximately 6 years to process a court case, and place the details on the internet. Of course, this process is expedited for the more well known cases.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2007
     

    The government is hardly going to expedite a case against itself. I see the RIAA going bankrupt before this case ever goes anywhere.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2007
     
    Posted By: nicaboker

    they sue themselves

    Oh yes. When I was at Yale Law school we had a few classes on that type of suit. It's called a "Pogo lawsuit" after the comic strip. "We have met the enemy and he is us."

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2007
     
    Posted By: Udoboy

    The government is hardly going to expedite a case against itself. I see the RIAA going bankrupt before this case ever goes anywhere.

    Maybe I misunderstand what you're saying, but the RIAA is not a government agency.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2007
     

    Ha! That's what they want you to believe!

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2007
     

    The government also owns the public transportation department (DOT) and the Metro.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2007
     
    Posted By: Haoest

    The government also owns the public transportation department (DOT)

    Interesting choice of letters for the acronym.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2007 edited
     

    That's kind of a non-sequitor. The public transportation dept is the govt. Department of Transportation is a cabinet-level office. They don't 'own' anything. The regulate (among other things). Many transportation modes are owned by govt agencies (like the Port Authority of NY and NJ. I think Bay Area Rapid Transit is also a govt agency) or are subsidized by the government. Amtrack was for a long time. I think it still is.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2007
     

    Amtrack was for a long time. I think it still is.

    hell year.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2007
     
    Posted By: Taed
    Posted By: Udoboy

    The government is hardly going to expedite a case against itself. I see the RIAA going bankrupt before this case ever goes anywhere.

    Maybe I misunderstand what you're saying, but the RIAA is not a government agency.

    The RIAA is the plaintiff. NASA is the defendent. While NASA is, I believe, considered to be a "private entity" they aren't truly private.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2007
     

    A private entity funded by billions of tax dollars. Even if they even pretended to be private, it'd be pretty obvious that their allegiance lies with the government.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2007 edited
     

    Huh? NASA is a government agency. The VP (Cheney) heads it.

    Maybe you're confusing it with the USPS, which is a government agency, but gets no goverment money (it's entirely self-funded sinced 1972 or so).

    The closest thing to what you're talking about would be something like Amtrak, which is a private corporation that is (entirely?) owned by the US government.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2007
     
    Posted By: Taed

    Huh? NASA is a government agency. The VP (Cheney) heads it.

    Then your confusion is even more confusing to me.

    • CommentAuthor5010
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2007
     

    Some sources are not available to the standard search sites. For example, search-and-sniff technology requires a database built by crawlers (which access data on servers) and sniffers (which monitor transmission of data that is not stored on public server folders). These sources cannot be legally accessed by a visible link. Instead, you have to have a special monitor that displays spectrum unavailable from the red/blue/green combination offered by public monitors. With such a monitor, you can see the invisible links and gain access to the sniff sources.

    I remember some chatter in an underground forum about being able to see these links by hooking up a strobe light to a standard RGB monitor, but I don't remember the exact frequency.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: 5010

    I remember some chatter in an underground forum about being able to see these links by hooking up a strobe light to a standard RGB monitor, but I don't remember the exact frequency.

    I'd read about this as well. Guess how you find the link to learn the exact frequency?

    GRRR

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      CommentAuthorTwinch
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2007
     

    The REM song "What's the frequency Kenneth?" is all about that problem.