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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    Hey guys, long time no see :)

    I wrote an article debunking the theory that recent climate change is due to humans, and I'd like to get some feedback! It will take you about 10 mins to read and is here;

    http://liplock.blogspot.com/2007/04/anthropogenic-global-warming-is.html

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007 edited
     

    Hmmm... Interesting!

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    B
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    P

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    Very nicely said.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    thanks :)

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    It was very informative and well-worded.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    And welcome back, by the way. I was just wondering what had happened to you the other day, and now here you are!

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    Thanks trance!

    I was at uni all winter and forgot to come by here because the bookmark was on my other computer!

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    How could you forget us?? :cry:

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    haha :bigsmile: I dunno, just got quite busy with all the partying and work lol

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    Combine them both, become a party organiser.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    :) I think i'd rather write controversial articles hehe

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    It's not controversial man, it's the truth!

    Well, it is controversial, but it shouldn't be.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    It really shouldn't be. I do have fun though winding people up and then smashing them to bits because I actually know what I'm talking about.

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     
    Posted By: MrFingers

    I was at uni all winter and forgot to come by here because the bookmark was on my other computer!

    UNI? As in the University of Northern Iowa?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    I think Uni is just an abbreviation for University.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    no no, uni as in university. i go to imperial college london.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    Excellent points. Well stated.

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    Oh ... :shamed:

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
     

    thank you udoboy :)

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2007
     

    nice article, though i do like it that the US government is spending money on climate research. if we know enough about the climate terraforming might be possible.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2007
     

    what fraction of that money do you think is relevant to the year 2400 terraforming?

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2007
     

    no clue. I don't think it's possible for me to calculate, too many factors. But if you want to start terraforming you gotta start somewhere and finding out how climate works is a pretty important step.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2007
     

    id bet you that out of the roughly half a trillion dollars worldwide that has gone into climate research in the last 15 years, about $1 will be useful to the people in the year 2400 with terraforming.

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    dude, i have no idea how you came up with the number of $1
    you have my attention. please explain

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    You have my attention too, not that it's worth much.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007 edited
     

    well it's the equivalent of asking what fraction of money spent on classical mechanics in the year 1600 is useful for our understanding of quantum mechanics today.

    then you have to consider the fact that the majority of funding to climate research today is being wasted because it is only being given to create more material to support an erroneous theory.

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    so the number was pulled out of your ass?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    As well as a buffet and a small jar of paté made out of nasal hair and yeast.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    yes, it came from my ass. but I did think about the method of extraction.

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    to support the claim of global warming, data must be gathered. to test the validity of a model that predicts climate change the same data will need to fit the predicted results of the model. So is the data that's being gathered costing us $1?

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    how is the data going to be helpful 400 years in the future when we are terraforming a planet?

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    it'll be helpful with finding out how climate works which will help with terraforming :bigsmile:

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2007
     

    we have neither the computing power, nor the instrumentation for that to be useful right now. It's like paying a bunch of 17th century mathematicians billions of dollars to do 1 billion calculations when a computer can do it now in one second at some infinitesimal fraction of the cost.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007 edited
     

    Here's a scientist who thinks (states) Al is wrong:
    Non-Global Warming Link

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007 edited
     

    Interesting article.... I'd like to see what happens to ocean temperatures in the next 5 years then.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     

    why is that link sending me to a wiki page? I want to read it...

    • CommentAuthorUser
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     

    ITS GLOBAL WARMING SEASON AGAIN!!!!:crazy:

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     

    Try the link now -- the BBCode automatically inserts "http://". I had left it in so when you clicked on it it prepended the http:// and everything got meshugennah, to use a technical term.

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     

    Nice article. Anything that says Al Gore is a fucking stupid cunt is awesome.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     

    How old is he anyways? He looks pretty young. To confess, he's very good looking to my standard.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2007
     

    I may have seen an F word or 2 in that article but I'm as sure as can be that there was no 'c' word anywhere.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2007
     

    nice wording, especially when you said about how full of shit they are lol

    • CommentAuthorArchel
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2007
     

    Are you saying that Stephen Hawking, the man who holds Newton's chair at Cambridge is wrong?

    http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=178f89d3d9987efabcf31c6fb8364fd6.654968

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2007
     

    He did not say a single intelligent or insightful thing in that video, it's all old hack.

    Just like the time he said that we need to populate other planets to secure our species' future. No. Shit. Sherlock.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2007
     

    I didn't even finish watching the movie

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      CommentAuthorMrFingers
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2007
     

    neither did I. I got to the part about nanotechnology and bioengineering and I started to snore.

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      CommentAuthorMonetdell
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2007
     

    I have always believed that the climate goes in like a huge circle over many 100 years. I mean the ice age happened when humans had only just started settlements, so how could we have made the ice age.
    I know my description is a bit naff, but what I'm basically saying is I think that climate change works like a much slower convection cycle but with global temperatures over many hundreds and thousands of years, so it would start with a big overheat (which I think could have been about dinosaur times would also explain why mammals survived) then it would follow with an ice age, then a Big melt. I think the cycles just starting again.
    i don't deny global warming I just think it is a natural phenomenon,that we may only slightly be speeding up.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2007
     

    Before dinosaurs, when beasts walked the Earth it was 60% hotter than it is today.
    Then came the time of dinosaurs,
    then the ice age after that.

    Your theory is correct Monetdell, global warming is completely natural.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2007
     

    I recommend 2 books that my dad has read and I haven't had the time to read: State of Fear and The Skeptical Environmentalist