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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007
     

    I dunno... but teechers say that, and teechers is smart!

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007 edited
     

    That's "teechers am smart," Udo. "Teechers am smart." Sheesh! :wink:

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007
     

    Ok - both of you - consider yourselves smited! Everyone knows it's "Teachers am smart"!!

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      CommentAuthorYika
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007
     

    Well. I happen to know Aliens am starterer, and they do not even have corners to go to.

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007
     

    You do realize that no one here pays any attention to your aliens posts, don't you? (But I love your icon!)

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007
     

    The aliens are paying attention.

    Posted By: nyarfdude

    You do realize that no one here pays any attention to your aliens posts, don't you? (But I love your icon!)

    And this is whole sentence is logically unsound.

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    Posted By: Athene

    Ok - both of you - consider yourselves smited! Everyone knows it's "Teachers am smart"!!

    Don't worry, I get the joke (what kind of half-intellect fool would I be if I didn't?) but the irony is just so great.
    Athene, thou must doubly smite thyself both for using incorrect grammar and failing to smite those who needed to be smited for BOTH reasons they were deserving of thy smiting, rather than just one.

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      CommentAuthorandresoforo
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: Udoboy.

    Where's chinarules to tell us whether or not the Chinese people care about Princess Diana, since obviously he can speak for 1.4 billion people.

    I found out that chinarules is a neighbor in my street. He has not come back because for a while, No one posted anything on the Fact Check Forums or on the Front Page.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: silverdragonfire
    Posted By: Athene

    Ok - both of you - consider yourselves smited! Everyone knows it's "Teachers am smart"!!

    Don't worry, I get the joke (what kind of half-intellect fool would I be if I didn't?) but the irony is just so great.
    Athene, thou must doubly smite thyself both for using incorrect grammar and failing to smite those who needed to be smited for BOTH reasons they were deserving of thy smiting, rather than just one.

    I withheld the smitings because I knew that Udoboy and Margaret were joking, therefore I refuse to smite them for deliberate errors. I believe that I acted in the best interests of my position as official smiter.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: Athene

    official smiter.

    Is that a gender-neutral word now? When I was a boy you'd be called a smitress. But I remember when there were stewardesses and actresses and waitresses.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     

    I could get behind smitress... Although when reading it it just looks like someone mistyped "mistress"...

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     

    Don't let Haoest read that...

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: Athene

    I withheld the smitings because I knew that Udoboy and Margaret were joking, therefore I refuse to smite them for deliberate errors. I believe that I acted in the best interests of my position as official smiter.

    Congress is setting up an inquiry to your smiting actions even as we speak. I've never testified before Congress before. Good luck to you.

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     

    Apparently gender-neutral terms/names are the new hotness, but in my opinion "smitress" sounds way more bad-ass. :thumbup:

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: Udoboy
    Posted By: Athene

    I withheld the smitings because I knew that Udoboy and Margaret were joking, therefore I refuse to smite them for deliberate errors. I believe that I acted in the best interests of my position as official smiter.

    Congress is setting up an inquiry to your smiting actions even as we speak. I've never testified before Congress before. Good luck to you.

    Be nice - I withheld your smiting...

    Posted By: margaret

    Apparently gender-neutral terms/names are the new hotness, but in my opinion "smitress" sounds way more bad-ass.:thumbup:

    I could go with bad-ass.... "Smitress" it is! Smitings for all! :bigsmile:

    • CommentAuthoreagamble
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007
     

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831

    for those interested in the bbc program...

    and my personal thoughts on global warming... if the planet is considered say few million years old, and we know that there have been periods both cooler and warmer on this planet, how can we be sure that the current slight warming trend is anything but a normal occurance for this planet? the weatherman don't always do so hot with next weeks weather so I can't imagine trying to predict weather even 5 yrs from now...

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: eagamble

    if the planet is considered say few million years old

    I think the generally accepted number is more like 4 Billion years. (Creationists notwithstanding)

    how can we be sure that the current slight warming trend is anything but a normal occurance for this planet?

    We don't. I think the alarm is caused by two things: The rapidity of the change and the likely (or potential) cause. If it's man-made greenhouse gases, things will likely get worse before they get better. Or at least, the consequences of things getting worse are potentially dire.

    I can't imagine trying to predict weather even 5 yrs from now...

    Again, it has to do with the perceived cause and that if the cause is man-made greenhouse gases then there is reason to expect the trend to continue. They're not predicting rain on May 2nd, 2019, or a heat wave in June of 2020. They are looking at the recent past and extrapolating into the future and they don't like what they see.

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      CommentAuthorYika
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007
     
    Posted By: nyarfdude

    You do realize that no one here pays any attention to your aliens posts, don't you? (But I love your icon!)

    Sorry for the late post, but... ¬¬ The aliens are coming for you TONIGHT.

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      CommentAuthorsatansean
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007 edited
     

    What does your Alien look like?

    -EDIT-
    My icon was spose to be a rubber ducky :(

    • CommentAuthorjwrundle
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2007
     

    has any oen heard of the urban heat factor well if you havent it just basicly says that areas with lot of concrete and glas heat up faster than srounding country side and guess what in more rural areas the avarage tempa has stayed about the same. Chew on that!:fingersear:

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     

    That theory is moot. "energy is neither created nor destroyed" They would heat up faster, but they would not get any hotter than any area around it, and it just makes cities a hellish place to live.

    • CommentAuthordgatlin
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Go step on the asphalt in the hot sun with bare feet then step on the grass and tell me if you still think all surfaces heat the same.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     
    Posted By: cmseagle

    That theory is moot. "energy is neither created nor destroyed" They would heat up faster, but they would not get any hotter than any area around it, and it just makes cities a hellish place to live.

    If you leave a shovel made of metal outside in the sun all day, alongside grass that's also been left in the sun next to the shovel for the same amount of time, and then touch both the shovel and the grass, which,would you imagine, seems hotter?

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Yes, but the shovel doesn't create additional heat, it just absorbs it.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     
    Posted By: cmseagle

    Yes, but the shovel doesn't create additional heat, it just absorbs it.

    In the same way a city may absorb more heat than the countryside.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Yes, but it does not add to global warming, just the warming of that area, which then makes another area colder.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    It adds to the warming of the area contributing to global warming.

    Assuming global warming exists, that is.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    I don't think your theory holds true, cmseagle.... The infrared radiation from the sun doesn't turn around and go elsewhere because a lot of it is being absorbed in one area.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     
    Posted By: Udoboy

    I don't think your theory holds true, cmseagle.... The infrared radiation from the sun doesn't turn around and go elsewhere because a lot of it is being absorbed in one area.

    Yeah, but the energy that is emitted by the sun holds constant, so if one area is sucking up TONS of thermal energy, then there is less in other areas.

    For Example: If you have a pan with 1 cm deep of liquid, then you put a sponge/other absorbing material in this pan, then the sponge/material will absorb the liquid, and reduce the depth of the water in other parts of the pan.
    If you were to wring out the sponge, the same amount of water would be in the pan, but before you wring out the sponge, there is more water in the sponge than in other areas of the pan.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     
    Posted By: cmseagle
    Posted By: Udoboy

    I don't think your theory holds true, cmseagle.... The infrared radiation from the sun doesn't turn around and go elsewhere because a lot of it is being absorbed in one area.

    Yeah, but the energy that is emitted by the sun holds constant, so if one area is sucking up TONS of thermal energy, then there is less in other areas.

    For Example: If you have a pan with 1 cm deep of liquid, then you put a sponge/other absorbing material in this pan, then the sponge/material will absorb the liquid, and reduce the depth of the water in other parts of the pan.
    If you were to wring out the sponge, the same amount of water would be in the pan, but before you wring out the sponge, there is more water in the sponge than in other areas of the pan.

    *BUZZ*
    Sunlight is a constant stream. When it encounters matter, it either is absorbed, passes through, or reflects. But it doesn't permeate like a gas or liquid. So, the city gets hotter than the countryside, but the countryside does not get any cooler.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    I wasn't referring to the countryside getting cooler, but the matter to which the city would have reflected heat into remains cooler overall.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     
    Posted By: cmseagle

    I wasn't referring to the countryside getting cooler, but the matter to which the city would have reflected heat into remains cooler overall.

    Okay, so the ground underneath the city doesn't heat like it would without a city atop it. I can live with that. I don't think it affects global warming one way or the other.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: Udoboy

    I don't think it affects global warming one way or the other.

    Exactly! That's what I've been trying to say.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Some scholar from England challenged Al Gore for a televised debate on global warming a while ago.
    I wonder what the status is for that.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Have you seen the stats on Gore vs. Bush's house?

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    No, what about it?

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     
    • CommentAuthorPanoply
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Ok, so going back to the original article from Diggs.com, is this proposing that we either have mass killings or is it saying that soon we will have a limit on how many children we can have? Either way, we should just go to another planet and start building a colony there. So then we will have TWO planets under our control, not just one. Go Humans! Go Humans!:smile:

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Or, we just figure out a way to cut carbon emissions.

    • CommentAuthorPanoply
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Or, we could arm everyone with weapons and have a competition to test Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest.

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     
    Posted By: Haoest

    Some scholar from England challenged Al Gore for a televised debate on global warming a while ago.
    I wonder what the status is for that.

    to my knowledge, al gore isn't an expert

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    Posted By: cmseagle

    Or, we just figure out a way to cut carbon emissions.

    LOL!

    I hope that was a joke...

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2007
     

    What's funny about that? Cut carbon emissions, no/less global warming.

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2007
     

    we can cut CO2 emissions if we just get enough people to stop breathing...

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007
     

    Then the plants may not produce enough oxygen and we'll all stop breathing!

    You're breaking the carbon cycle!

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007
     

    So, if we just moderate our breathing, by say driving instead of walking, we would limit our exhalation of carbon dioxide and nip this whole global warming thing in the bud!

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    now that was clever

    we could do that, or, to hit three birds with one stone, we feed all the horridly obese folk in the US to the starving folk in africa

    it reduces the population, which is good for the environment or something, also it takes care of both our (america's) obesity problem and africa's starving child problem

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007
     

    Or, we find some alternative fuel source, and in the meantime, let the EPA regulate carbon emissions!

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007 edited
     

    It's so crazy it just might work!

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      CommentAuthorWrong
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: estebanissexy

    now that was clever

    we could do that, or, to hit three birds with one stone, we feed all the horridly obese folk in the US to the starving folk in africa

    it reduces the population, which is good for the environment or something, also it takes care of both our (america's) obesity problem and africa's starving child problem

    This is just bad. I take great offense. Being close personal friends and even family memberswith those who are overweight or even morbidly obese, I can tell you that being fat is no reason to be killed. Being an indecent person is a much more justifiable reason in my opinion. I can also tell you that my brother (who happens to be obese) is one of the best people I know and not only would I die to save his life, I would kill as well.

    In behalf of all the obese or overweight people I apologize for contributing to global warming and inconveniencing you by being in your line of sight.

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