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    • CommentAuthordjb13
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    "• Due to a slight mistranslation, Revelation 13:18 is usually written as "the number of the beast ... is 666", instead of the correct "... is 6 by 6 by 6." Hence, the number of the beast is actually 216, not 666."

    Although it is true that the number of the devil is not 666, it is not 216, but 616. The BBC (UK) TV program QI says so.

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      CommentAuthorbufar
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    They obviously did not get their facts straight.

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      CommentAuthorWrong
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    mama says numbers are de devil!

    • CommentAuthor5010
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    Not only that but the word 'number' is 'מספר' in hebrew, but the word 'volume' is 'תפוסה'. Hard to believe they got that part mixed up too.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007 edited
     

    As with most Gullible.Info facts, this one is the result of original research by our team of researchers and fact checkers.

    Going through their notes, I see that they found this by the obvious approach. They transcribed an early copy of the New Testament, did a translation from Old Greek to English using a current understanding of the language, and then looked for any obvious differences between that and commonly available versions.

    There were, of course, hundreds of differences. However, only a few of them were interesting, and we'll surely be posting others in the future.

    The problem in this case was that the original Greek read "είναι έξι από έξι από έξι", which as you may know, could be read either as "6,6,6" or "6 by 6 by 6" in modern Greek since "από" is often used to indicate place value, in much the way that we use a comma. However, going back through other documents, its use as an indicator of place value didn't arise until at least 500 AD. Since the New Testament was written long before that date, the meaning is thus clear.

    This error does not exist is most non-English Bibles (with the large exceptions of the popular Russian and Turkish editions), and seems to have been introduced in the original King James edition and the error has been perpetuated from that point.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     
    Posted By: djb13

    "• Due to a slight mistranslation, Revelation 13:18 is usually written as "the number of the beast ... is 666", instead of the correct "... is 6 by 6 by 6." Hence, the number of the beast is actually 216, not 666."

    Although it is true that the number of the devil is not 666, it is not 216, but 616. The BBC (UK) TV program QI says so.

    Really? this is quite interesting. Could you please inform us of their logic? We are quite dedicated to checking the integrity of our facts, and try to ensure that nothing is overlooked.

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    And no radio/TV program could ever be wrong, right guys?

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    Of course. Just ask those guys at The Fish.

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    Posted By: djb13

    "The BBC (UK) TV program QI says so.

    The BBC Made a prank once that spaghetti grew on trees. Everyone believed them.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    Yes, but I don't believe they would lie about something in the bible, so i'm interested to hear their 616 logic.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    I did some web research, and the BBC program was quoting a news story that came out around May 2005 that the earliest known version of the Book of Revelation had been found and that the number there was 616 (actually "είναι έξι από το ένα από έξι"), but the translation there would be "6 by 1 by 6", which is pointless since multiplying by 1 has no effect on the end result. Furthermore, there is another papyrus that has it as 665. But the vast majority have it as "6 by 6 by 6". So, I think that those two are merely transcribing errors, and that there will be an even earlier papyrus discovered at some point that has the "6 by 6 by 6" Greek.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2007
     

    I think they were saying that Risk Dice are the devil.

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      CommentAuthorMonetdell
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2007
     

    QI got this fact from an apparently very reliable source, it wasn't a mis-translation though.
    the show said it was a misprint in the english or whatever language the translation was,version.
    but then again steven fry could have just said the wrong word by accident.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2007
     

    There are other translation discrepancies throughout the Bible, the most famous of these is the dispute between Yahweh and Jehovah. Most believe that Yahweh is the correct name of God, and a few believe that God's name is Jehovah.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2007
     

    I thought his name was Bob

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2007
     

    I thought his name was God.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    God's his title, everyone knows his name is Robert.
    Although his friends do call him Bob.

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    I'm Jewish,so I should know that the number of the Beast is 8,675,309.Duh.

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      CommentAuthorYika
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    God's his title, everyone knows his name is Robert.
    Although his friends do call him Bob.

    I must be special, cause I call him Bobby.

    Posted By: VanCamp

    I'm Jewish,so I should know that the number of the Beast is 8,675,309.Duh.

    I'd love to hear your explanation for this.

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    *SIGH* Just read each number individually.Don't you people have jobs?

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      CommentAuthorYika
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007 edited
     

    o_o I do. But my job does not involve understanding your mediocre jokes! :angry:

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    God's his title, everyone knows his name is Robert.
    Although his friends do call him Bob.

    But everybody's His friend!

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    Yika: Jeeze,don't have to be so mean.Why don't you tell me about said job in my LATEST FORUM!!That's right.If you post the necesarry information,you may win a faaabulous respooonse!!:sleepout: AND WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?!

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007 edited
     

    "No one knows what it means, but it's provocative." Quote from Blades of Glory (Awesome movie)
    Edit: Referring to :sleepout:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    It's a rock with a spazzing tomato in its mouth.

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    It looks like someone with a goiter. Eew.

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    HAHA!Goiter...hilarious.

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    *sighing at stupidity*

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    *Oh,well,we all can't be genius' all the damn time SIIIGH*

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007 edited
     

    Geniuses are geniuses all the time.
    Their IQ doesn't just randomly go down!

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     
    Posted By: nyarfdude

    *sighing at stupidity*

    Are you calling me stupid? :cry::cry::cry:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     
    Posted By: VanCamp

    genius'

    I'm surprised the grammar police didn't catch that.

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    Posted By: Trance

    Geniuses are geniuses all the time.
    Their IQ doesn't just randomly go down!

    I'm just saying that sometimes there are gaps in my geniosity.Just quit pullin' me down,man.

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    geniuses,whatever.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    You're right, from now I'll only correct someone if it's really important.
    I apologize.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: Trance

    Geniuses are geniuses all the time.
    Their IQ doesn't just randomly go down!

    :siren:Grammar Police!:siren:
    That was actually the first thing I noticed when I saw that post.
    It's genii like, radii.
    That's $250.

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    Fo'ills?Cool.I like words like that.Octopata.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    Actually, both are acceptable, according to Dictionary.com

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    Dictionary.com is pretty fuckin' cool.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: VanCamp

    Fo'ills?Cool.I like words like that.Octopata.

    Octopuses!

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    Octopuses and octopi are acceptable ( I think)
    He was referring to the Octopata gullifact methinks.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     
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    Yes,Trance,youthinks correctly.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     
    Posted By: VanCamp

    *Oh,well,we all can't be genius' all the damn time SIIIGH*

    What have you done on this forum to prove you a genius?

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    Athene! I need backup! Call in air strike!

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007 edited
     

    Cody, what's your IQ? then we can settle whether you're genius material or not.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007 edited
     

    Well I took a free IQ quiz and it said 9(?), but earlier my mom took me to a psychologist and took some tests every so often, and my mom wouldn't tell me my IQ but she said it was very high. And I'm taking all advanced courses at my high school (except my fat, lazy teacher recommended me for Bio. instead of Adv. Bio. so that pissed me off. But I learned that I can Adv. Bio. because I made a B or better in Algebra), so I would rather trust my mom then a free IQ test.
    Edit: I was about ten when I went to the psychologist.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: VanCamp

    I'm Jewish,so I should know that the number of the Beast is 8,675,309.Duh.

    Wouldn't this make Athene the Beast?

    {how's that for obtuse jokes?}

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     
    Posted By: Cody56

    Well I took a free IQ quiz and it said 9

    That sounds right.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2007
     

    You edited it. I meant to say it was in the nineties, but I didn't know the second digit. And my mom says she doesn't remember. :wink: