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I believe there was one at a time...
I created one at the beginning when I created this thread, but it somehow traveled to some old thread of legatissimo's and that was why Legat took it off. I couldn't get any polls to work, and other people like andresoforo couldn't edit theirs.
I came to a realization last night.
See, if our souls can time travel, but our bodies cannot, then we have a solution. This explains Deja Vu / premonitions, but it also explains past-life regression. You see, I firmly believe that our souls are travelling backwards in time, so when you're hypnotized, your soul is actually experiencing a premonition of its next life, which you consider to be your past life.
Why does my brain hurt today?
Your thoughts were manipulated by alien with strong brain waves and it burnt your head.
The body is mechanical, no such thing as past or next life. And Deja Vu is a coincidence.
Posted By: HaoestYour thoughts were manipulated by alien with strong brain waves and it burnt your head.
The body is mechanical, no such thing as past or next life. And Deja Vu is a coincidence.
Yeah? Well I knew you were gonna say that. And then that I was gonna say this.
But did you know I was not going to say this?
The aliens knew :(
is there anyone here that knows general theory of relativity? or did we just blow past that into an existential discussion?
because its witches that control time and not aliens. aliens control space/time which is different from time itself.
jeez guys try to keep up with
There's the General Theory, the Major Theory and the Private Theory. I don't think there are any others, though. Like I don't think there is a Lieutenant Theory.
I have no idea what any of them are. 
I believe it's called the Leftenant Theory. It was developed in England.
Posted By: Fact totumThere's the General Theory, the Major Theory and the Private Theory. I don't think there are any others, though. Like I don't think there is a Lieutenant Theory.
What about the Brigadier Theory?
Posted By: TranceI have no idea what any of them are.
I think it was a clever pun
and Im usuing the word clever VERY loosely
jabberwocky
I came across this post... it's this simple. Travelling back in time to any event ON the earth is impossible. There is one reason... As the earth goes around the sun in an elipse it also wavers up and down and tilts back and forth over thousands of years on its axis, the sun goes around the galaxy and also travels in a relative up and down motion... not stopping there the galaxy is speeding away from the center of the universe... if you travel to any point in time... the machine or method will remain as a vector in space and not changed in time... I.E. if you travel one year to the second back in time, you will not end up on earth at least not where you expect if at all. The earth is never where the calendar says it would be. Continuing further eventually you will be left floating in space. You'd need to know the exact postion in the universe you want to go, with a constant point of reference in the universe to have some chance of finding your way around. You'd also need to have the ability to warp space and travel faster then the SQUARE of the speed of light because E=MC2 does NOT mean matter and energy are equal at the speed of light, it means they are equal at the speed of light SQUARED... or 34596000000 miles per second... excuse the american standard units. And wouldn't it be just much of a pollutant to start creating black holes and worm holes all over the place. Not feasible not even reasonable. Also if travel forward in time were possibe that means the future is already made and we don't have free will and no decisions we make are in reality or own but merely dictations of chance and cause and effect... if you don't understand the implications of that belief it means nothing the anyone has ever down wrong is their fault so why not release all criminals. Anyway just my thoughts... obviously I have thought about this prior to the post.
As for all this bull about alternate dimensions... if no one could know about these events then who the crap started talking about it in the first place... its a load of crap. You might as well start by saying, this is complete bull and I can't prove it I'm just pulling some crap out of my arse from some SciFi story... are these the same people that got a religion from a SciFi book? Riiiiiiiiiight. To say something with conviction that you cannot prove or show to be accurate with some kind of scientific process is to be a fool. Even science can glorify religion. This malarky poisons the minds of those who would be intelligent and carry on the truths of science. Don't talk about alternate dimensions and then go on to explain that no one could know they are there, is crap.
i thought about ripping your first argument apart, but then i reconsidered.
you should be more open minded. there are cosmologist that believe in alternate dimensions.
any ideas right or wrong do not poison the mind. if anything it entertains and stimulates the mind.
you don't have to believe in something, but why are you trying to change other people's beliefs?
But what sort of proof or even plausible reason do they have for this theory?
Okay, the theory that states time travel is impossible because of the Earth's movement is fair enough. But, if you could find a way to build some sort of vessel on Earth that experiences time at a faster rate than the rest of the Earth, you are essentially travelling through time, depending on the speed the vessel experiences the time transfer.
And about the dimensions, they exist. But not in reality, This may explain it better:
http://tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php
But essentially, none of this is important if you don't act a little more open-minded.
A good lesson is useless if it falls on hard ears.
I'm open minded and I believe there are other universes that occupy space as ours does but in differebt i gues you would call them dimensions... but as there are only like 12 or 13 dimensions that our time space is made up of they are not infinite universes parallel to ours. I believe in OTHER not ALTERNATE dimensions... math has proven that... but as no one can prove time line branching and parallel dimensions its a load, too fantastical because I follow a simple concept... we are on a continent part of a world part od a system part of a galaxy part of a universe... you get it... and beyond that I believe if you were to be able to see all dimensions and not just 3 you would see an expanse of universes popping in and out of existance like boiling water... but I do not believe you can control the forces neccessary to travel through them... that's too omniscient for a machine. Cosmologists believe alot, so do muslims, jews, and any other group you can think of... I don't believe something simply because a respectful number of people buy into it. They have been wrong and I wouldn't trust them on something that can't even be shown. The closest to time travel anyone can state is in a black hole... but since we've yet to even actually see a black hole or its effects its all still theory, as are the ideas of what happens in them. No one knows. Could be true could be malarky... won't know til it happens. And i was reading through some of the posts, someone had said that timelines were infinite yet countable... please explain how that oxymoron could be true.
You don't believe the theories because of a lack of cold,hard facts?
excuse my many typos... I watched the video, interesting and well stated but what would these other dimensions be, why do they not have names or functions? I've read that there are more then 10 dimensions. For the thought... I have a belief that black holes are created when matter begins to accelerate through time faster then space. Einstein had another theory that the faster an object moves the heavier it became... why wouldn't that hold true for time as well... if something begins to move faster through time it would become heavier in space... that could account for why singularities are so small and even infintie points. I don't think gravity itself is enough to crush against matter to that point... but with the help of moving quicker through time it could make sense where the extra forces come from... and account for why they are so hard to see. Anyone ever heard of a white hole? Stick that with quantum particle theory and you may have your answer to time travel but I still don't see it as being feasible. As one of the other posters said... if it were possible it would have happened, a rebuttal about timelines came after that, but the poster mentioned main life versus alternate life... who's to say which life is your "main" life?
There have always been cold hard facts even to explain why the earth wasn't flat and the sun didn't go around the earth... the greeks knew about it before the middle ages... Facts are what make a theory, its how the scientific process works... these are hypothesis because most of the ideas are based upon theories which are not laws of science yet... therefore its like building a skyscraper on a foundation of toothpicks... you can't state something as true when even what you base it on is still only theory
*smacks head against a wall*
this thread irratates me.
i would like to discuss this with you but you need to know more about math and physics. please go over newtonian physics(your first post here shows that you don't quite understand it), general relativity theory (pay attention to space/time, its important), cardinality(something can be infinite and countable), integral transforms(helps with physics), statistics(for uncertainty principle), brownian motion(quantum mechanics), and for the hell of it 'logic'.
Wow!
I wish I knew all that!
i asked for an explaination on how something can be infinite and countable... LOGICALLY its an oxymoron and LOGICALLY it makes no sense... LOGIC does not work with quantum mechanics because it exists at a breakdown of what we know to be, logic dictates two particles a universe apart cannot influence each other, quantum mechanics says the two could be connected like a negative and positive and what one does so does the other... don't bash my intelligence if you know more then me fine. don't be a hater be a teacher. I'm not stupid, I'm discussing things with people about theory and idea, this exchange is supposed to enlighten not demean... what you meant to ssay was I should know more about THEORY not math and physics... there are seperate fields that deal exclusivly with what we are talking about and if this were meant to be a contest of eggheads it would be a forum at MIT or something not on a website of LAYPEOPLE
Posted By: Alias_Factoi asked for an explaination on how something can be infinite and countable... LOGICALLY its an oxymoron and LOGICALLY it makes no sense...
Dude, a countably infinite set means that there is a function from the set to the set of natural numbers that is both injective (one-to-one) and bijective (onto the natural numbers).
The simplest such map is let 1 go to 1, 2 go to 2, 3 go to 3, ...
So, by definition the natural numbers are an infinite countable set; I thought everyone knew that, what are they teaching kids these days?! 
So you're saying any set that can be placed in one-to-one correspondence with the set of counting numbers is countably infinite... IE, its cardinality is 0 or null. I'd never heard your term before, but I can accept it.
EG, the set of integers...
{1,2,3,4,5,6,7...} is in one-to-one correspondence with {0,1,-1,2,-2,3,-3,...}
Posted By: UdoboySo you're saying any set that can be placed in one-to-one correspondence with the set of counting numbers is countably infinite... IE, its cardinality is 0 or null. I'd never heard your term before, but I can accept it.
EG, the set of integers...
{1,2,3,4,5,6,7...} is in one-to-one correspondence with {0,1,-1,2,-2,3,-3,...}
Yes, except, I think the cardinality is 0 or Omega (commonly used), not null. The cardinality is defined in terms of infinite ordinals.
Anyways, yes the integers are countable, what is sort of surprising (well not too much), is that the rational numbers are also countable.
Edit: I think Aleph-0 is also used in place of Omega.
Posted By: easyEmuPosted By: UdoboySo you're saying any set that can be placed in one-to-one correspondence with the set of counting numbers is countably infinite... IE, its cardinality is 0 or null. I'd never heard your term before, but I can accept it.
EG, the set of integers...
{1,2,3,4,5,6,7...} is in one-to-one correspondence with {0,1,-1,2,-2,3,-3,...}Yes, except, I think the cardinality is 0 or Omega (commonly used), not null. The cardinality is defined in terms of infinite ordinals.
Anyways, yes the integers are countable, what is sort of surprising (well not too much), is that the rational numbers are also countable.
Edit: I think Aleph-0 is also used in place of Omega.
Yes, I remember figuring out how to put the rational numbers in one-to-one correspondence with the set of counting numbers to prove a theorem involving random roots of random integers... ugh.
When I said 0 or null, I didn't mean to imply that they were the same, just that I'd forgotten which was proper terminology. lol
Oy
Alias_Facto is very correct about the dimensions theory being bullhonkey.There are 4 dimensions. The first dimension is the x-axis,the 2nd is the y-axis,and the 3rd is the z-axis.Now,the fourth dimension is time itself,and none of the other dimensions can exist without the ones that come before it.This is just rambling.I really have a question.
If time travel DID create these extra dimensions,how could we actually know we created them?The original "traveler" would get in the machine (or whatever)and the process would begin and make alot of noise.Then said traveler would exit the machine and ask his/her colleague,"Did we do it?Did we actually create a new dimension?" and the other person would say, "I dunno.You got in,I turned it on,and then you got out.Do you feel different?" and he would say, "I feel dead inside".
Also,on another note,to travel back in time,one would have to take everyone/thing in at least the universe back.And why would we want to travel back in time?If one went back in time to assassinate Hitler before 1932,then he would have never been all "Achtung Blitzkrieg!" and there would have been no reason in the future to go back and stop him,and since no one went back to do said stopping,then he would have lived and started his campaign,thus creating reason to go back in time.
Also again,the one thing that makes it seemingly impossible to go back is that doppelgangers mess severely with the head of fate.If your past self is needed by someone,but they see you,then that person will talk to you,and your past self will never know what you were supposed to know at that time,thus leaving out key information for you that would create a snowball effect on your "fate" (the Star Wars:Infinities series deals with this).If you (past) never gets asked to go to the dance by the girl you like,then you will never get to know her,marry her,and be where you are...were today.
This goes back to my "Hitler Theory" (it could be one of the other actual theories,but I don't care to read them) with the endless loop of "to-be-or-not-to-be" (I also know that this line is contemplation of suicide by Hamlet,but it was the most appriate thing I could think of)
I am SO high right now.
Yeah that's all valid, but it wouldn't be possible to go back in time to the 40s using a machine created in 2007, even if time travel was possible, because the machine wouldn't be created and could only go as far back as when it was first turned on.
A reason to travel back in time: to learn more about, say, the dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs were cool,yo.
Posted By: Alias_Factoexcuse my many typos... I watched the video, interesting and well stated but what would these other dimensions be, why do they not have names or functions? I've read that there are more then 10 dimensions. For the thought... I have a belief that black holes are created when matter begins to accelerate through time faster then space. Einstein had another theory...
I just read this,and I have yet another two cents.Black holes have the most gravity of anything...ever,yes?They are like a tube that sucks things up in one end (black) and spit them out a the other (white).When something,even light,enters the black hole,it is reduced to the size of very,very,very,micro-small.When this something leaves through the white hole,does it return to normal size,or is it scrunched for eternity?AND,if the galaxies are moving away from each other,and they are moving,just away,is the distance between black and white becoming greater,or is the black hole thethered to the white hole in that if white moves 2m to the left,then black does the same.I hope you get me.

Gravity of a Black Hole is not determined by its name of "black hole," it's determined by its mass. What makes a black hole different from other heavenly objects is its density.
Ok,ok."Gravity is not determined...".That,for some reason,made me laugh.Not at you,but something.So,ok,just add the density part in and it's like I never made a mistake,right?
Surely the universe the black holes(s) are in has a bigger mass?
No one on the Internet can make a mistake, because everything is true, and everything is right.
do things leave a black hole?
Yes,jsimpleton,white holes,or,as far as I can read,they're theory at least.Can anyone prove me wrong?I'd like to be.
Posted By: jsimpletondo things leave a black hole?
When a star implodes on itself it creates either a supernova or a black hole.
i can't prove you wrong, but you'd need some evidence of a white hole
Ooo,here's a question: What's that big glob in the center of the galaxy in all the artist's renditions?I've always read that it's a black hole,but then I see pictures of black holes,and they look completely different.What's up with that?!
Also,I'm having second thoughts about the galaxy/white hole theory.If white holes exume tiny gravitized masses,then there's really no way that there would be gravity for the galaxy to stay in shape,unless the gravity from said particles is great enough to hold it together,and if this is the case,then everything will eventually pack in on the white hole.I can't think of what would happen,but it would be unspeakable.
If the center of the Milky Way is a black hole,then we are doomed and should have sex with all the hot chicks and shoot ourselves.
We are kind of getting off subject though.I almost forgot that this was about time travel.
black holes are related to time travel because the idea is that time travel requires an infinite amount of energy to accelerate the mass to faster than the speed of light. you can get infinite energy from the gravity of a black hole. and i remember hearing about hawkings radiation being emitted from a black hole but he later refuted his own claim.
I don't remember hearing any evidence of white holes though
All those pretty pictures of the universe that we see are actually touched up. None of them were raw pictures taken by the telescopes. Especially black holes, they are not visible to the eye. Their existence is detected by other means.
Posted By: VanCampOoo,here's a question: What's that big glob in the center of the galaxy in all the artist's renditions?
In the galaxy, it's the nucleus of the Milky Way.
In the Universe, it's the origin, the point it all started and the point it wall all end.
Posted By: HaoestAll those pretty pictures of the universe that we see are actually touched up. None of them were raw pictures taken by the telescopes. Especially black holes, they are not visible to the eye. Their existence is detected by other means.
Well,I realize THAT!
If you can go faster than the speed of light, time travel is possible.
relativity, time dilation, etc.