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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2007
     

    That's a picture.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2007
     

    I watched Sliders.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2007 edited
     

    The show I used to watch was The Time Tunnel.

    I mean I will watch it. When it comes out. Back in the 60s.

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2007
     

    Never heard of it!

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2007
     

    Well, it's very believable that our past, present, and future are all happening at this very moment, but it all depends on how time acts. If time is something which can be harnessed, and happens in a sequential order, then we could theoretically go back/forward in time, thus dispelling the idea that past/present/future all happen now.

    However, if we view time as something that is happening erratically, (as we thing about yesterday, yesterday is happening again type thing) then it is true that every instant that will ever be is occuring constantly, and our bodies just move through these instances in this mixed up order we call time.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    But you could try moving to these seperate wavelengths as if they were places,thus travel through time.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Yes, but a wavelength is not a place. In order to travel through time, you'd have to "tune in" into the past/future.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    That's why I said "as if they were places"

    If you could relate to them as different places, you could travel to them.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: cmseagle

    Yes, but a wavelength is not a place. In order to travel through time, you'd have to "tune in" into the past/future.

    Can I get that with rabbit ears or do I need cable?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     


    Posted By: cmseagle

    Yes, but a wavelength is not a place. In order to travel through time, you'd have to "tune in" into the past/future.

    That statement is rather bold isn't it? (couldn't resist)
    considering humans know next to nothing about time travel, how can you be so sure?

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Trance, this whole talk is non-sense anyway.
    cmseagle is trying to provide a possibility given the hypothesis.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    One scientist postulated that time travel is not possible and the evidence is that we don't have time-tourists visiting us from the future.

    A comedian reflected on that and suggested that maybe we don't have any tourists here because the late 20th/early 21st centuries are the equivalent of Peoria, Illinois.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance


    Posted By: cmseagle

    Yes, but a wavelength is not a place. In order to travel through time, you'd have to "tune in" into the past/future.

    That statement is rather bold isn't it? (couldn't resist)
    considering humans know next to nothing about time travel, how can you be so sure?

    Like Haoest says, I'm essentially guessing. I have no idea if these wavelengths actually exist, I'm simply hypothesizing about how we COULD do it IF the above facts are true. This is all purely hypothetical.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: cmseagle

    Yes, but a wavelength is not a place. In order to travel through time, you'd have to "tune in" into the past/future.

    Those look like two statements to me.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Well, when we're talking about a technology that isn't even CLOSE to existing, it is generally safe to assume that everything is a guess.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    How do you know it isn't close to existing? There could be a time machine being made in secret, in my basement... Not that there is... :ninja:

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Is that an invitation? I am in.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    It is.

    I live in Neverland.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Should I take an extra sleeping pill tonight?

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    I live in Neverland.

    The Peter Pan one or the Michael Jackson one?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    The Peter Pan one was Never-Never Land if I recall correctly.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Trance, aren't you a little old to live in Neverland?

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    I think it's colloquially referred to as Never-Never land but in the book it's Neverland.

    There is, however, this never-never land.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Fact totum
    Posted By: Trance

    I live in Neverland.

    The Peter Pan one or the Michael Jackson one?

    How does a high-schooler like trance qualify for michael? Isn't he a bit too old?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Michael is so desperate he's not even fussy thesedays.

    THIS IS SO WRONG!

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Fact totum

    I think it's colloquially referred to as Never-Never land but in the book it's Neverland.

    There is, however, thisnever-never land.

    I think it's only really called "never never land" in Enter Sandman by Metallica.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Damn, I sent another thread off topic...:cry:

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    I always liked the idea that all events here, then, and before, are Instant. Everything that did happen, everything that is happening, and everything that will happen. It all just IS, but we experience it as "Time" for some unknown purpose. Maybe it's because we are not ready to comprehend the truth just yet. But we've actually started, lived like this, and reached our end result all in the same instant. Though instant isn't the right word, because there is no time, so things just are. Everything just IS. I'm sure there is more to it than that, but how much can we possibly comprehend about it?

    *whispers Trance* "I've saved your butt again!" :aaaaa::hfive:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007 edited
     

    If there's no time, how are things like prophecies explained?

    If everything just is, how come things just aren't?

    And thanks, I owe you one.:hfive:

    Edit: That "owned" smiley was accidently put in there, i'm not being arrogant.

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      CommentAuthoreasyEmu
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Fact totum

    One scientist postulated that time travel is not possible and the evidence is that we don't have time-tourists visiting us from the future.

    A comedian reflected on that and suggested that maybe we don't have any tourists here because the late 20th/early 21st centuries are the equivalent of Peoria, Illinois.

    Fact totum: Please see my lengthy comments near the end of the first page which explain why we do not have tons of time tourists. The only way to know is if they reveal themselves to us, then we would probably stick them in a mental institution.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Sliders was decent enough the first season, but then I got bored with it. The Time Tunnel was pretty crappy looking back on it -- it's out on DVD now!

    As far as time travel goes, my favorite on TV would probably be "Yesterday's Enterprise" on ST:TNG. (It shoulda been a 2-parter!)

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    If there's no time, how are things like prophecies explained?

    If everything just is, how come things just aren't?

    And thanks, I owe you one.:hfive:" alt=":hfive:" src="/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/stolen/hfive.gif">

    Edit: That "owned" smiley was accidently put in there, i'm not being arrogant.

    Some people can tune into the other frequencies, and see what is to come.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: easyEmu

    Please see my lengthy comments

    I never read more than a paragraph. I sometimes skip whole posts if they're more than a paragraph. It's a holdover from when I was studying to be a neurosurgeon. Who has time for all those pages??

    Posted By: easyEmu

    which explain why we do not have tons of time tourists.

    So you discount the real possibility that we are in some sort of time backwater?

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    Perhaps we're under an embargo. Or we aren't very interesting.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007 edited
     
    So you discount the real possibility that we are in some sort of time backwater?

    We're the middle east of time, it's a place so screwed up, no one voluntarily visits.

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    It could also be we DO see tourists, but if anyone does it would all just be swept under as jargon by the general public, like aliens n such.

    Posted By: Trance

    If there's no time, how are things like prophecies explained?

    My theory would actually support Prophecies and the like. If in truth everything just IS, then perhaps some people are more attuned to the truth and can see bigger parts of that One Moment instead of being totally limited to seeing everything as it plays out for us.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    And déjavu would also be justified in a smilar way?

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007 edited
     

    OK - who forgot to close the italics?

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Told you the forum software was bugged.

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Dejavu happens to people with a lesser degree of Prophetic ability and don't realize it :0p. So they see other parts of the big picture but don't remember or don't realize except with that feeling like they've seen something before.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     
    Posted By: Haoest

    Told you the forum software was bugged.

    You mean they can hear what we type? :ninja:

    Posted By: Fizzer

    Dejavu happens to people with a lesser degree of Prophetic ability and don't realize it :0p. So they see other parts of the big picture but don't remember or don't realize except with that feeling like they've seen something before.

    Hold up, if this big picture of time just is, it means it eiher happened really quickly, like a spark, in the universe, or really slowly... and whichever it was, they both take time, right? So it can't have "just been" if it took time...

    That's not phrased very well, I had the idea in my head and it was hard to put to words, sorry.

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    In the big picture, there is not Time. We are just experiencing it with time for some unknown reason, probably because we couldn't handle it otherwise. Just because we can't handle it or understand it, doesn't make it impossible :0).

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Or does it? Maybe there's some rule that dictates that there is, but we just can't understand or handle that rule.

    I see what you're saying, but for time to be present in our interpretation of this big picture it is very likely for it to be present somewhere else. And if it's present in our interpretation, in a sense it does exist in the big picture, but we're the only ones that can see/interpritate it.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Time is a figment of our imaginations, created so because our brain could not handle the big picture. Therefore, it exists, but only for us.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Who's to say it doesn't exist for everything else in this big picture?

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    I believe dejavu is coincident.
    We spend about 1/3 of our lives sleeping, and so we dream so much. It's not surprising that a few fragments of all dreams happens to look similar to what happens in real life.

    feel me?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     
    Posted By: Haoest

    feel me?

    That's what she said.

    I like that viewpoint, makes logical sense, in my head anyway, which isn't really logical.

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      CommentAuthorbufar
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    I'm too lazy to read this whole thing, but I feel like I should post something anyway. My explanation is so simple a five year old could understand it. Here goes:
    _________
    Time Travel is impossible. If they ever developed a time traveling machine, would it go both forward and back in time? Hopefully, otherwise whenever you used it you could never go back to the time you came from. Just further away. Also, if they did make this machine, would they use it? Of course they would, otherwise no one would believe them.
    Now we have established two things: If they ever build a time machine it will go both ways in time and they will use it. Assuming that they traveled back to a time before right now, we know that time machines are never going to be invented. This is because somebody would have noticed it and told someone. It would be all over the press if people came from the future. Since people have never came from the future in a time machine, we can conclude that Time Travel will never happen on this earth. :old-owned:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Maybe they have.

    If somebody told you they were from the future, would you tell everyone?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Also... assuming that because nobody from the future has told us we'll make a time machine is because we will never make one is flawed. If I made a time machine, say, out of steel, and went back 50 years, the steel used for the machine would still be in a mine, so I wouldn't be able to get back to what was my present day... So why would I go back 50 years if I had to be stuck there? Answer: I wouldn't.