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    • CommentAuthorcompience
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    i'm fairly sure this is true, although stats about such things are normaly kept fairly murky.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006 edited
     

    proof that gays are evil?? loll and arent serial killers more likely to be bullied when they are younger or something???

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    I think serial killers brains work differently to "normal" people's, so they may be unsure about their sexuality.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    yes but how is a 'normal' persons brain suppose to work as no 2 are alike?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006 edited
     

    Isn't that snowflakes? :confused:

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    lol.. well what 2 people do you know that think exactly the same etc??

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    Well that is true, although I think most brains work in the same way, we all get scared and release adrenaline and whatnot.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    if what you said about people releasing more tesosterone makes them gay or less etc. then wouldnt the lack or having too much of this be the thing that makes them a serial killer??

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    I don't know if testostrone is responsible, it may be a different chemical altogether.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    well if gays are more likely to be serial killers and a person being gay depends on the testostrone then it will be linked...

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    It could be a coincedence, it could be a checmical inside the testostrone.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    And i'm only assuming this information I read is correct, alot of things I read aren't, for example I read that sexual desire is linked to detecting pheremones from another human being, then I considered how it could be possible over the intenet, when people can be thousands of miles away.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    pheremones are what makes a person care about someone or something like that (i saw this off a tv show) but people can find other people attractive just by the way they look

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    I think pheremones are to do with sexual desire, whereas there's another chemical that I can't remember the name of, that makes you care about people, I think.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    kind of going off the subject of serial killers are gay now.. lol.. wt serial killers are there anyway?? and any1 know whos gay and who aint?? the sniper guy in america wasnt gay i dont think

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    I don't know many serial killers to be honest, the friendship usually ends when they either try to kill me, or hit on me.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    lol.. wt serial killers do you know that usually hit on u??!?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006 edited
     

    I don't know any really, I was only joking :fierce:

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    lol suree.. *cough* serial killer shagger *cough*

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: critdragon</cite>lol.. well what 2 people do you know that think exactly the same etc??</blockquote>

    Twins!:peace::peace:

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    This is what I say about gays
    :grouphug:

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2006
     

    twins dont think exactly the same.. fraternal twins arent even anywhere near the same.. and identical twins have the same genetic features but their environments would be different so they would think and be different

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    Does anyone have any actual statistics or research about this?

    • CommentAuthorcompience
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/about/special/gay_serial_killers1.html
    http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html
    http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet4.html

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      CommentAuthorKRistos
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     

    Really, I was under the impression that most serial killers are straight.
    also the article at www.adherents.com says this in bold

    "the total number of serial killers is too small to make statistically relevant statements about whether homosexuals are over- or under-represented among serial killers." -http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html

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    I don't know about the rest of you, but those 'research Websites' listed look very hokey to me... I smell an agenda. Zeig HEIL!!

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     
    Posted By: KRistos

    Really, I was under the impression that most serial killers are straight.
    also the article at www.adherents.com says this in bold

    "the total number of serial killers is too small to make statistically relevant statements about whether homosexuals are over- or under-represented among serial killers." -http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html

    I thought that serial killers were more likely to be middle-aged single Caucasian men, and that there is a better chance that they had an abusive childhood. I've never heard before that they have a tendency to be homosexual.

    • CommentAuthorcompience
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     

    i think homosexuals are more likely to commit suicide than straight men also. Which is just another sign of mental unbalance.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     

    u realise most of us are basically saying homosexuals are mentally unbalaced.. meh i agree.. lol

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      CommentAuthorKRistos
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     

    Not really, homosexuals also face much more discrimination, and hate against them. Which is quite abig factor in suicide

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     

    got this off the internet and none of them say discrimination

    Factors which make a Suicide attempt more likely -

    Depression

    Substance abuse

    Child Abuse victim

    Close Family members have committed suicide

    Close Family Members have tried Suicide

    Previous Suicide Attempts

    Access to Guns

    Bipolar Disorder

    Relationship problems

    Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder

    • CommentAuthorcompience
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     

    its not discrimination if the facts back up the theory.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2006
     
    Posted By: critdragon

    ...Previous Suicide Attempts...

    I wonder why...

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    I heard lectures during my college years that supported the notion that CLOSETED homosexuals (of both sexes) were in the higher suicide bracket. In contrast however - secure, stable gays living in an open-minded, accepting and nurturing environment (in other words, without bigoted homophobes beating them down to cover their own latent homosexual tendencies) very rarely commit suicide.

    • CommentAuthorcompience
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2006
     

    stable gays as you put it.. regardless of suicide risk always have a lower life expectancy than straight people because of STDs that are so prevailant within these communities.

    is it wrong to consider a condition that produces a lower life expectancy as an illness?

    • CommentAuthorcompience
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2006
     

    and how does one collect data on "closet" homosexuals? if their in the closet no one knows if they are gay or not.

    ive never met a teacher who knew anything worth learning.

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    They left their coming out for the suicide notes they left behind - and I'm not even going to dignify the STD comment with a response. That is BLATANT redneck propoganda at its worst. And, apparently, you also never met a teacher who taught you how to use capitalization or punctuation, either..

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2006
     

    Maybe A teacher knew lots of things "worth" learning, just didn't want to teach you, or you didn't want to listen.

    • CommentAuthorcompience
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2006
     

    how is the STD comment "propaganda"? (oh dear making comments about spelling and then fucking up yourself.. embarrassing isn't it.)

    STDs effect the homosexual community more. because 1.)they are more promiscuous with different partners. 2.) the sexual acts they engage in are more likely to result in the transfer of STDs.

    - to spell it out for you, when you fuck someone in the arse you tend to break the skin and spill blood, cos its not designed for that activity.

    and i'm fairly sure statically that most people who commit suicide don't leave a note.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2006
     
    Posted By: RedStateRefugee

    I heard lectures during my college years that supported the notion that CLOSETED homosexuals (of both sexes) were in the higher suicide bracket. In contrast however - secure, stable gays living in an open-minded, accepting and nurturing environment (in other words, without bigoted homophobes beating them down to cover their own latent homosexual tendencies) very rarely commit suicide.

    You know, this makes a great deal of sense, especially when you look at the list above of factors which contribute to suicide. Two of the factors listed are depression and relationship problems. If you're in the closet (or denying it even to yourself), you are more likely to become depressed because you can't truly be yourself around anyone who doesn't know your orientation, and even if you're denying it to yourself, you are going to be having strange feelings about things that would cause a lot of conflict within. I know if I suddenly started having romantic thoughts about other females, I would be highly conflicted, even though I have friends who are gay and don't have a problem with that. These conflicts have a high potential of causing depression even in the most stable person. They are also going to be likely to cause relationship problems, since if you are in a relationship with a partner of the opposite sex, you are, in effect, causing more problems by living a lie, and if you are in a same-sex relationship, but in the closet, it may put strain on your partner as well as the relationship by having to deny your feelings in public. Therefore, being in the closet may not be the main reason for suicide, but could increase the likelihood, because most stable, happy people don't even consider suicide.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2006
     

    If you're in the closet and denying your sexuality to yourself, how do you actually know you're homosexual?, and what if you only think you're homosexual, and commit suicide, when you were actually heterosexual, is it then classed as a homosexual suicide?

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007
     

    if your in the closet, doesn't it mean that you know you are gay but will not admit to others?? and suicide would count as suicide and how it happened, i doubt they'd say its homosexual suicide just because a homosexual is doing it

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeJan 6th 2007
     
    Posted By: KRistos

    Really, I was under the impression that most serial killers are straight.
    also the article at www.adherents.com says this in bold

    "the total number of serial killers is too small to make statistically relevant statements about whether homosexuals are over- or under-represented among serial killers." -http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html

    Clearly, we need to churn out more serial killers in order to get a relevant statistical base. Maybe we should open up the prisons in Florida.

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      CommentAuthorbekah
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2007
     

    i have a really close m8 who is gay and he would never hurt a fly! Im not saying all gay people are like this, but anyone can be a killer..

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: bekah

    i have a really close m8 who is gay and he would never hurt a fly! Im not saying all gay people are like this, but anyone can be a killer..

    Even... YOU!

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      CommentAuthorBGoosh
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2007
     

    Hmm.. maybe gay people just have more lethal methods.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2007
     

    Or are bad at covering their tracks.

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      CommentAuthorBGoosh
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2007
     

    I think it's also a very reasonable possibility that gay serial killers are just publicized more due to the simple fact that they're gay.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: bekah

    i have a really close m8 who is gay and he would never hurt a fly! Im not saying all gay people are like this, but anyone can be a killer..

    that's one person.. i have a german/nigerian friend who is unbelievably racist and a complete retard but it doesn't mean that all nigerian or all german people are like this

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2007
     

    I try not to judge people before I meet them.