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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2007
     

    Maybe you ruled the World in the previous World, and decided on a change?, If that makes any sense.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2007 edited
     

    So.. Nobody believes in solipsism?

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2007
     

    I guess not.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2007
     

    Interesting..

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2007
     

    I would if I was the sole monarch on our planet.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2007
     

    You're the sole monarch of this thread... Does that count towards anything?

    Why have the whole World, you'll never be able to see it all!

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2007
     

    i don't believe in soliphsism but it is interesting as a person sees everything from their own point of view and basically about them. so in a way their world obviously does revolve around them.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2007
     

    If solipsism is true, how come somebody else thought of it, isn't everybody else a fabrication?

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2007
     

    lol.. true.. true.. or maybe you thought of it really and your just trying to tell yourself again through this

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2007
     

    That's a valid point.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    You're the sole monarch of this thread... Does that count towards anything?

    Why have the whole World, you'll never be able to see it all!

    If i positsion the mirrors just right, I'll be able to see everything.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2007 edited
     

    What about the backs of the mirrors....?

    That's a metaphor.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2007
     

    They would be one way mirrors.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2007 edited
     

    "I think Christianity is such a popular religion because it's so much like a do anything you want, repent, and be forgiven. They put so much emphasis on being forgiven for anything you've done. Even if you've murdered, raped, mutilated. All you have to do is Repent, ask for forgiveness, believe, and your home free. It's not so much if someone is a good or bad person, it's whether at the end if they believe and ask for forgiveness. Thats like a major safety net. Pretty much people run around these days doing whatever the heck they want."

    No. You misunderstand ENTIRELY. the Christian sacrament of reconciliation is not, "I murdered 3 people, i'm sorry. Yay! Heaven!" In order for a person to be absolved, the have to do penance, turning yourself in, apologizing, returning stolen property, etc.

    Also, about the KKK, it originally had nothing to do with race. It was a bunch of unemployed southerners running around, pulling pranks, and raising southern morale after the civil war. This eventually developed into uncontrollable hatred, which the first grand wizards had no chance of controlling.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2007
     

    then they started racism which spiralled out of control but was still accepted by the us government and was allowed by the us government.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2007
     

    It was accepted by a large portion of Americans because it had traditional American rituals (BBQ for example. Even though that was almost entierly done by black slaves...).

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    Religion is to god as coupons are to savings.

    Yeah, you can quote me on that.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: TadGhostal

    Religion is to god as coupons are to savings.

    Yeah, you can quote me on that.

    Didn't know we needed permission, woops.

    So you need religion to have a God, is that what you're saying?

    Did you consider Taoism?, There's no God in Taoism, but it's a religion.

    Solipsism is a religion. There's only one real thing in solipsism, yourself, so you're your own God!

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    You don't need religion to have a God. You don't need coupons to save, either. That's just one of the many ways my statement is correct :tongue:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    You need religion to have a God, from a personal viewpoint.

    What's the point in a God if nobody knows he exists?

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: TadGhostal

    You don't need religion to have a God. You don't need coupons to save, either. That's just one of the many ways my statement is correct:tongue:" start="fileopen" height="15" alt=":tongue:" isMap="false" hspace="0" loop="1" src="http://factcheck.gullible.info/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/tongue.gif" width="15" vspace="0">

    I'm not a fan of this analogy. I think the point it actually makes is the opposite of what you mean. A coupon communicates an offer to a buyer. Without the coupon, the buyer is unaware that the offer exists. Therefore, the Religion:God::Coupon:Savings analogy intimates that Religion communicates God to people, which therefore makes it necessary for Religion to exist.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    Exactly, if there's no religion, in a sense there's no God, because nobody knows about him.

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     

    Ask him. Maybe he'd say that he has a point to exist whether anyone knew about him or not. I know I do (have a point and purpose, regardless of who knows or does not know if I exist)

    I think it's more accurate to say "some people need a religion in order to recognize a god". I think that's what you mean by the phrase "have a god"?

    Take the coupon. It offers $2 off cat food. You go buy $6 dollar cat food, but only pay $4 for it (you use the coupon). All you've done is gone and spend $4 while feeling like you *saved* $2.

    In other words, a coupon makes you spend money while making you feel like you done the opposite - saved money.
    Religion is the same way: Whatever most people think it's doing for them in relation to their god, it's usually doing the opposite.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    Most religions are. There are a great deal of religons that have no God.

    When can you stop calling something your belief, and start calling it your religion?

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    Exactly, if there's no religion, in a sense there's no God, because nobody knows about him.

    Hmm, not sure I'm going w/ you on this one. Go back to the coupon analogy. If the company makes an offer, but doesn't communicate it to the buyer, the offer still exists ... i.e. if God exists, but we don't know about him, He's still there.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     

    If nobody knows there's a cuopon, How can it be spent?

    The offer still exists, but wont be used.

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: Trance

    When can you stop calling something your belief, and start calling it your religion?

    When it implies that giving it money increases your status - and you agree.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     

    Money can increase anyone's status..

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     
    Posted By: margaret

    ...intimates that Religion communicates God to people, which therefore makes it necessary for Religion to exist.

    If Religion communicates god, then who communicated it to the communicators? Go back far enough, and there was one person who found god without religion. For that person, religion was not necessary at all - and if it's not necessary for one person, who says it's necessary for any?

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    No, the offer still exists, but the liability it would generate is reduced (in this scenario, likely to zero, and like I said, I'm not a fan of this analogy).

    If God exists but nobody knows about Him, His impact on society is reduced (as in people won't do things in His name, but he's still omnipotent and has an indirect impact on society).

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     
    Posted By: TadGhostal
    Posted By: margaret

    ...intimates that Religion communicates God to people, which therefore makes it necessary for Religion to exist.

    If Religion communicates god, then who communicated it to the communicators? Go back far enough, and there was one person who found god without religion. For that person, religion was not necessary at all - and if it's not necessary for one person, who says it's necessary for any?

    Whoa Nelly! I'm not arguing your point, I'm saying the analogy isn't working for me.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     
    Posted By: margaret

    No, the offer still exists, but the liability it would generate is reduced (in this scenario, likely to zero, and like I said, I'm not a fan of this analogy).

    If God exists but nobody knows about Him, His impact on society is reduced (as in people won't do things in His name, but he's still omnipotent and has an indirect impact on society).

    That's what I was saying, If nobody knows about God they can't hear his word.

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    I know. But who's Nelly?

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    That's what I was saying, If nobody knows about God they can't hear his word.

    So you're implying that God needs us to hear His word to obtain omnipotence? I disagree.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    I'm saying he needs us to hear his word for us to know he exists, and therefore do good deeds in his name.

    G-D may not even be omnipotent, the Bible has been subject to human editing, and you know what humans are like...

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    I'm saying he needs us to hear his word for us to know he exists, and therefore do good deeds in his name.

    Therein lies the fallacy and the contradiction of religion. Religious people hold that religion is a necessary tool for . But if god is truly omnipotent, he needs nothing. He can tell us "his word" individually as he sees fit, or yell it to all of us at the same time using a giraffopotomus as his mouthpiece. It is man that holds that religion is vital, and it is man alone who depends on it - according to all who say god is omnipotent.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     

    Who's to say what God really is anyway, He may have just been an alien and for thousands of years he's been making a fool out of our planet!

    If so, and the aliens attack, that would explain God's armageddon. And his "plan" is just his alien friends living on Earth instead of humans!

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     

    <speaks into watch-like device>.....There on to us.....

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    Technically God is an alien, he wasn't born on Earth..
    Maybe he plans to attack, from his home planet, That's millions of years farher in technology than ours, and everything he's told us about the universe is properganda, so we wouldn't suspect!

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     

    <speaks again into his watch>....false alarm....

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    I hate that religion is the opium of the people. I kinda wish it were the other way around.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    How do you mean?

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    I wish I didn't hate it.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    Then don't. :shocked:

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     
    Posted By: TadGhostal

    Religion is to god as coupons are to savings.

    Yeah, you can quote me on that.

    so can I cash religion in for 1/10 of a cent?

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    Hasn't the cash value of a coupon gone down to 1/100 of a cent now?

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: TadGhostal

    I hate that religion is the opium of the people. I kinda wish it were the other way around.

    You'd prefer that opium was the religion of the people??

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      CommentAuthorTadGhostal
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: Athene

    You'd prefer that opium was the religion of the people??

    Finally!

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007 edited
     

    Oh, I thought that was a metaphor, you know because opium is addictive.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2007
     

    opium would be a good religion.. nobody would stop believing unless they want to severly suffer lol :bigsmile:

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