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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2007 edited
     

    Religion and Science are both based on faith, Maybe Religion more than Science, Faith and Curiosity, maybe even thought.

    When does something stop becoming an obsession and start becoming a religion?

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2007
     

    When it is accepted by the majority of a community and the person(s) in power of the community.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2007
     

    So is the KKK a religion ? It's accepted by all its members,(its community) and the person in power of that community.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2007
     

    Just because someone calls an organization a religion doesn't mean I have to.

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2007 edited
     

    The KKK is/was and organization, not a community, although it had many members. And its beliefs were never accepted by the "ultimate" person in power (the president).

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      CommentAuthorAdinsx
    • CommentTimeJan 15th 2007
     

    What about Woodrow Wilson? I thought he was a racist, if not a KKK member.

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2007
     

    I don't know too much about that, but I did a small amount of research and found that Woodrow Wilson's religion was presbyterian (a type of protestant faith), so he already had a religion, despite whether or not he was racist.
    Now maybe some smaller towns of the US had most of their citizens in the Klu Klux Klan (including the person in power, which would be the mayor). If that were so, and the mayor or whoever had the final vote on their "official" religion, some of the KKK's beliefs could be considered religious. But the KKK was never recognized as a religion by any official government (with a few acceptions), so it was simply a racist organization, not it's own civilization/community.

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      CommentAuthorBGoosh
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2007
     

    I think the KKK being a religion is a pretty valid point in the context of it being a accepted by a community. Think about all the marches and organized meetings they hold, I wouldn't be suprised if early klan meetings weren't held on church grounds .

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2007 edited
     

    If you claim the KKK to be your religion, you are not uncorrect. As long as you believe their teachings you can claim anything to be your religion.

    Even Gullible.Info!

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2007
     

    Wilson was racist and sexist, but I don't think he was ever a member of the kkk.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2007
     

    i thought the kkk was a form of christianity (like roman catholic etc.) because they had their own rituals and way of worshipping god, also their beliefs were not the same as most christian oranigsations

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2007
     

    It was an organization, not a religion, but some of its beliefs could be considered religious.

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    Posted By: Trance

    If you claim the KKK to be your religion, you are not uncorrect. As long as you believe their teachings you can claim anything to be your religion.

    Even Gullible.Info!

    Ok... All hail the Pagan Gullible.Info God:dance:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    Maybe we should start our own religion :rasta:

    first rule: have an afro.

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      CommentAuthorBGoosh
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    Second rule: All gnomes must drink from seperate water fountains and be subject to hails of AGG gunfire while walking in the streets.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007 edited
     

    Third rule: say acroynms used on the internet outloud, such as "lol".

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    The first rule of Religion Club should be that you don't talk about Religion Club.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    Fourth rule: NEVER question the religion rules.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    Take it to the anarchy zone.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    Sorry D League. :shamed:

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      CommentAuthorKRistos
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    Fifth Rule: See rule number six

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      CommentAuthorBGoosh
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    Sixth rule: See rule number five

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    It's in the Anarchy Zone!

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      CommentAuthorPriya
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     

    Seventh Rule: If you'd followed the previous two rules, you wouldn't be reading this. Pointless having rules when you don't follow them. Follow rules better, and then there'll be a seventh rule. It's all your fault.:angry:

    :wink:

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    Sorry D League.:shamed:

    It's all right. I just want this thread to be as spam free as possible. And that's rule number eight.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: critdragon

    i thought the kkk was a form of christianity (like roman catholic etc.) because they had their own rituals and way of worshipping god, also their beliefs were not the same as most christian oranigsations

    Is the KKK a form of christianity!?

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    all members of the KKK were christian, they're kind of like muslim extremists but have killed more people

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    I think Christianity is such a popular religion because it's so much like a do anything you want, repent, and be forgiven. They put so much emphasis on being forgiven for anything you've done. Even if you've murdered, raped, mutilated. All you have to do is Repent, ask for forgiveness, believe, and your home free. It's not so much if someone is a good or bad person, it's whether at the end if they believe and ask for forgiveness. Thats like a major safety net. Pretty much people run around these days doing whatever the heck they want, a scary portion doesn't care who gets in the way. I swear there are so many people that call themselves Christians but don't follow anything at all. Religion has become a tag, like class or race. I'm so sick of people saying "I'm Christian" and then turning around and insulting people, hurting people, killing their spirit and their lives. And other people who hear the tag and think that they must be a good person. I use Christian as a General name, It's the same with most of them... The only religion I've never met a mean person in is Pagan :0p. But that doesn't mean I'm going to turn around and think better of a person just because they've chosen to tag themselves as Pagan.

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    I think the KKK was primarily a Xenophobic organization, where the members happened to use religion (and national origin, and skin color and...) as a dividing point between "us" and "them." [Not that I'm including myself with the Klan]

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    Does anybody know why the KKK are so against "them"?

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    Who knows why anyone discriminates?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    Well, If I discriminate against you because I don't like you, and I don't like you because, say, your grammar annoys me, I am discriminating against you because your grammar annoys me, Right?

    (Not implying anyone has bad grammar)

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    From what I understand, the KKK were mostly "good ol' boys" who didn't much like anyone who wasn't male, white, and Christian. Why, I have no idea. Prejudice has never made any sense to me.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    Is it wrong to be prejudiced about people that prejudge?

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     

    Well, the KKK discriminates against minorities b/c minorities annoy them. So the question is why does bad grammer bother you (not that it really does) or why do minorities bother them? I think what nyardude was saying is that there are a plethora of reasons for why any one thing bothers any person/group of people, and nobody can know for sure.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    Does anybody know why the KKK are so against "them"?

    The KKK were against blacks, northerners who came south after the American Civil War, and southerners who supported reconstruction done by the north after the war. They did this mainly to stop support for the north in the south by controling votes with violence. Blacks got the short end of the deal because they were easier to spot than other supporters of reconstruction. But I also agree with Udo, they were very xenophobic.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007
     

    KKK were against all coloured people and jews. they believed in white supremacy and that they are above everyone else, much like hitler with aryans

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007
     

    On a sidenote, does anybody here believe in solipsism?

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007
     

    which is..?

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007
     

    Are you really that lazy Critdragon? You could have taken the minute and a half to Google it and find out what it means...

    Solipsism is the idea that only you exist and everyone and everything else is fabricated. Basicly, the belief that you live in your own little world.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007 edited
     

    I do live in my own little world. But that's OK - they know me there. :bigsmile:

    No, I believe that you all exist. Besides - there are people out there that are even stranger than I could ever imagine!! Proof that I'm not fabricating the rest of the world.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007
     

    I think the most fatal blow to this theory is that there are people smarter than me. For instance, I didn't know about Solipsism until Trance brought it up. Not that Trance is intelligent, but he knew somthing I didn't. :wink:

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007
     
    Posted By: Fizzer

    ...The only religion I've never met a mean person in is Pagan :0p. But that doesn't mean I'm going to turn around and think better of a person just because they've chosen to tag themselves as Pagan.

    I take offence at you not taking offence and not thinking I'm a better person because I'm Pagan.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007
     

    Stupidity is another fatal blow in my book. Some of the dumb things that people do (repeatedly, even, sometimes) - again, I couldn't dream that up on my own.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2007
     

    I don't know... I can dream up some pretty stupid things.

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    Let me synopsize the Bible for you all. God wanted companionship. He also wanted to be be worshiped by choice (i.e. "free will" as opposed to creating robots) so He created Adam, and gave him free will but He also gave him some rules. God and Adam would walk and talk "in the Garden in the cool of the evening." but Adam and Eve broke the rules, sinned, were pitched out of the Garden and lost that relationship with God. God missed that relationship and the rest of the Old Testament is about God wanting it back. Eventually He sent He sent His Son Jesus to pay for all sin. Those who believe that and accept Jesus as Savior will have that relationship with God back when they get to Heaven. The rest of the new Testament deals with how to conduct oneselve as a Christian. I hope this clarifies the Christian's concept of free will. :cool: :worship:: :grouphug:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2007
     

    What if you could be offered the choice now, to go into a virtual World, a World where everything inside is made by you, including yourself, you could be as intelligent or as unintelligent as you wanted to be,and so could everyobdy else. What if there was some limiting factor to how creative you could be, such as money. Now, what if that World, is ours.

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2007
     

    Hmmm... That's a really interesting concept...

    I really don't know how to respond to that! :colbert:

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2007
     

    Well, this is the internet. And you can be as attractive as you want to be. :confused:

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    What if you could be offered the choice now, to go into a virtual World, a World where everything inside is made by you, including yourself, you could be as intelligent or as unintelligent as you wanted to be,and so could everyobdy else. What if there was some limiting factor to how creative you could be, such as money. Now, what if that World, is ours.

    Then I want to know why I don't rule the world yet.