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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006 edited
     

    Edit: nevermind

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    Reload, it wasn't letting me embed flash. It's an image link now.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    That was rather random

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    Most people here seem to be rather deistic, (god doesn't interact with us) which is understandable with the world's current condition. The way i like to look at it is that God generally wants people to be happy, and even when something bad happens, it normally turns out for the best.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    What is it? Flash won't work on my computer.

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006 edited
     

    It's going to take another 45 minutes for me to download it :0p. But I'll post soon as I've watched it.

    And D League, try going to www.tenthdimension.com

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006 edited
     

    No, the download box never comes up.
    We should post these messages as wispers from now on to make the debate/ topic more fluid.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    That animation was very insightful and thought provoking!

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    I'm sure it was. (looks for left-in-the-dark smiley...)

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    I like the idea of folding dimensions, it's something I've never come to think about.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    (...still cant find it...)

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    Can your computer load Quicktime?

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    Wow, I'm still downloading, but I read through the transcript they have on the site. It's crazy, was almost like reading my own thoughts. All of it just kind of rings in my head. Must...buy...book...*foam*.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    It's a great animation! and I'm actualy surprised I understood it first time, Lol:wink:

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    I don't see how it stops at ten dimensions... wouldn't this chain just continue on, creating its own infinity and then becoming one of others in a never ending string?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    But at the tenth dimension, every single fate that is imaginable, and even those that aren't, are all included in the first point, so there is nowhere else it can go to without repeating a part of itself.

    At least that what I think it meant.

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2006
     

    God sacrificed his son Jesus for our sins. Or so the Bible tells us. This would imply that god is bound by some law or another. If he was all powerful he could have just forgiven us instead of sacrificing Jesus. Another theory I like is that God gave up on us but Jesus chose to come live like us and experience what it was like to be human, from our perspective. And then possibly took over responsibility of us. It would explain the drastic change in God from the old to the new testament. God was getting crappy results from his aggressive approach, was going to trash the whole idea, but Jesus asked to come experience humanity and in doing so he saw that flash of hope and chose to take over instead with a totally different approach.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2006 edited
     

    Or so you may believe, but if Jesus didn't die for us, how many religions would there be left today, and ultimatly, how many more criminals?

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2006 edited
     

    In his time, there were many small sects of jewdisim, christianity being one of them. Because of emperor constantine and his vision of a firey cross in the sky before one of his victories, christanity became the official roman religion. Once rome fell, and the dark ages enveloped europe, christanity became one of the only surviving aspects of the roman empire until the renascence in europe. I've noticed that throughout the world, one main large religion developes in every region. Islam developed where it did because it was the home town of Muhamed. Jewdism deveoped because it was there first. Christianity developed because of the fear of the dark ages. I don't know much about far east and native american religions.

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    Basically all of the prophets of the nine major religions were born in the Middle East. I wonder why?

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006 edited
     

    All of them origninated in that region. They just spread in different directions. What I find to be an absolutly astounding coincidence is that Muhamed decided to acsend to heaven right on the jewish temple mount.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006
     

    What about buddhism? It's the main religion of China and it was brought to China by an Indian monk named Dharma 1400 years ago.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006 edited
     

    I don't know much about them.
    All I know is that they are located in Asia and that they have nothing at all to do with middle eastern and european religion.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006
     

    Well there are different variations, but the Chinese generally believe in an enegry called Chi or Qi, it's a life force that everything posesses. The Chinese believe that in humans Chi is concentrated in the navel, and they attempt to release it, which can give them seemingly supernatural powers. They believe perfect Chi balance is the key to a happy life.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006
     

    Why the navel? Is it because that's were the ambilical cord detatches?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006 edited
     

    To be honest I don't really know why, although i'm certain that it's the navel.

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      CommentAuthorKRistos
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006
     

    chi involves balancing, my completely uninformed guess would be that the navel is roughly in the center of the body. isn't chi generally involved in taoism, or is that something different. I'm pretty sure that buddhism doesn't involve chi, but I'll defer to you there.

    oh an dleague, when it comes to religion, few things are coincedences. I wonder what kind of political message that sent to Jews and Moslems.

    meanwhile im gonna look up taoism, buddhism and hindusim on wikipedia.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006
     

    It is probably to late, but look at this first.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006 edited
     

    I'm also pretty sure that acupuncture has somthing to do with where chi flows from the body.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006 edited
     
    Posted By: KRistos

    ...oh an dleague, when it comes to religion, few things are coincedences. I wonder what kind of political message that sent to Jews and Moslems...

    I'm not sure, but it was probably somthing along the lines of :fingersear: to the jews.
    It may have been an act of defiance and of proof of the faith of Islam that Muhamid acesnded right there. Although he could have saved us a lot of trouble and fighting by acending about a quarter mile in any direction away from it.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006 edited
     
    Posted By: KRistos

    chi involves balancing, my completely uninformed guess would be that the navel is roughly in the center of the body. isn't chi generally involved in taoism, or is that something different. I'm pretty sure that buddhism doesn't involve chi, but I'll defer to you there.

    oh an dleague, when it comes to religion, few things are coincedences. I wonder what kind of political message that sent to Jews and Moslems.

    meanwhile im gonna look up taoism, buddhism and hindusim on wikipedia.

    Actually you are correct, the belief that Chi is focused in the navel is because of balance, and Chi is alot to do with balance, however I never meant to imply that Budhism involves Chi, my knowledge of Budhism is very limited.

    I believe in Cantonese Taoism just means a way or characteristics, so the tasoism of Chi would be a way of releasing Chi etc.

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      CommentAuthorKRistos
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006
     

    ok, thanks about the anti-wikipedia deal, ill remember not to use it as my primary source, though i didn't actually cite it.

    Yes I believe Buddhism deals more with the being in tune with the harmony of the universe. the eight fold path, meditation, etc. which is running up nearly the same tree as chi is.

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      CommentAuthorKRistos
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006
     

    So i'd like to take a moment and reflect on exactly how alike all world religions are. It's quite amusing yet not difficult to imagine why as humans in large groups tend to come up with similar explanations for the same questions

    1) obviously the Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are very close to due shared cultural borders.
    2) Then Buddhism and Hinduism are also very close to each other for the same reason, though Buddhism has a much more defined doctrine than Hinduism.
    3) Then the Jewish had this ever present belief that God is everywhere, which is like chi or any other metaphysical energy,.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2006
     
    Posted By: KRistos

    ...Then the Jewish had this ever present belief that God is everywhere, which is like chi or any other metaphysical energy.

    Except the Jewish don't belive that they can harness this energy at any time.

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      CommentAuthorFizzer
    • CommentTimeDec 25th 2006
     

    Isn't Chi focused behind the naval? In the actual center? Seem to remember that, though its xmas morning so I'm not going to look it up right now :0).:dance:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 25th 2006 edited
     

    Well yeah behind the Navel, sorry I forgot to mention it's an internal enegry.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006 edited
     

    meh i jus think that if you cant see something then it doesnt exist, and since nobody on earth has ever seen god (apart from psychos and very religious (mentally disturbed) people) i dont think he exists really

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    I can't see you right now, do you exist?

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    yes but there are other humans in the world that have seen me and can varify my existance.. are there any for god??

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    Yeah,You said it yourself

    Posted By: critdragon

    meh i jus think that if you cant see something then it doesnt exist, and since nobody on earth has ever seen god (apart from psychos and very religious (mentally disturbed) people) i dont think he exists really

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    yes but i changd it..

    Posted By: critdragon

    yes but there are other humans in the world that have seen me and can varify my existance.. are there any for god??

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    Changed what?

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    He edited it.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    Yes but the point about people "seeing" God is still there.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    yes but is there anybody in the world who has seen god?? is there any proof of his existance at all?? a lot of lifes questions have scientific answers which prove against religions eg. evolution so holy scriptures can not be used as proof really

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    Maybe there's a little God in everything? Maybe he's part of a state of mind? it all depends on your outlook of what "God" really is

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    im acutally supposed to be religious believe it or not.. but i dont believe in god as a whole.. i just believe in the ideology of sikhism.. rather than the belief in god..

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2006
     

    I don't know much about Sikhism.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2006
     

    That's because it's the fifth largest religion in the world and it's centered on the other side of the world in India.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2006
     
    Posted By: critdragon

    im acutally supposed to be religious believe it or not.. but i dont believe in god as a whole.. i just believe in the ideology of sikhism.. rather than the belief in god..

    What do you mean you don't belive in God as a whole? How do you belive in parts of him?