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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007 edited
     

    What?! I can't use my icon! This is retarded!

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007
     

    R-Tarded!

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007
     

    ha ha ha

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2007
     

    when i say "posing a danger" you should think danish cartoonist. does anyone remember what happen with that?

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: nyarfdude

    ... inadverdantly ...

    I suppose that means in a non-green manner?

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: jsimpleton

    when i say "posing a danger" you should think danish cartoonist. does anyone remember what happen with that?

    No, but you're welcome to expand on it. :smile:

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: margaret
    Posted By: jsimpleton

    when i say "posing a danger" you should think danish cartoonist. does anyone remember what happen with that?

    No, but you're welcome to expand on it.:smile:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007 edited
     

    Banned. Forum rules prohibit gulliblees (mispelled?) linking to wikipedia.

    Wait, how come no one asks me to expand on anything I say?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     

    Can you expand on that?

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: Haoest

    Banned. Forum rules prohibit gulliblees (mispelled?) linking to wikipedia.

    Not banned. He's not using wikipedia as a source for a fact, but just to expand on his statement.

    But you brought up a false banning.... I think the punishement for that is an Athene smiting followed by cannibal lunch... you're the main course.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007 edited
     

    I rather be her desert. Yum Yum.

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     

    You'd rather be her arid land with sparse vegetation??

    Hey, whatever floats your boat ...

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     

    I was assuming I had a choice, margaret.

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      CommentAuthorandresoforo
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: nyarfdude

    <img alt="Nyarf!" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/andresoforo/c70ea8b4.gif"></img>

    What?! I can't use my icon! This is retarded!

    Try using an IMG tag

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: margaret

    You'd rather be her arid land with sparse vegetation??

    Hey, whatever floats your boat ...

    Boats don't float in the desert.

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007 edited
     

    Touché, Udo.

    So how about we bring this thread back on track! This quote was on my Buddhist Quote of the Day a while back:
    "All the evil in the world, and all the unhappiness, comes from the I-concept." - Wei Wu Wei

    Any thoughts?

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    Personally, I believe that the author of the quote meant that in society, all the evilness and unhappiness comes from the same source, the society itself.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     

    I-concept sounds like selfishness.

    That claim maybe true, but it is also the same force that drive progress in the world.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     
    Posted By: margaret

    Touché, Udo.

    So how about we bring this thread back on track! This quote was on my Buddhist Quote of the Day a while back:
    "All the evil in the world, and all the unhappiness, comes from the I-concept." - Wei Wu Wei

    Any thoughts?

    Wei Wu Wei? That's a Taoist quote...!

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
     

    It is indeed! Or a Daoist quote if you're from China. :wink:

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007
     

    i'm not quite sure what the quote means :neutral:

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2007
     

    That's why you're a simpleton.

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      CommentAuthormargaret
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     

    Hey now, be nice, eagle!

    Actually, that's the point of the quote. If the world were full people whose main objective was to care only for themselves, then lying, cheating, and stealing would all be acceptable moral values.

    However, if the world was comprised solely of those who cared more about others than themselves, then those values would be unacceptable. And even though this is a utopian idea, the point remains that being nice to your neighbor can't harm you. :smile:

    At least that's what I take it to mean ...

    Anybody else have a quote that makes them think a bit more about the morals we all live by?

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      CommentAuthorlegatissimo
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: margaret

    Touché, Udo.

    So how about we bring this thread back on track! This quote was on my Buddhist Quote of the Day a while back:
    "All the evil in the world, and all the unhappiness, comes from the I-concept." - Wei Wu Wei

    Any thoughts?

    It sounds a lot like something from The Unborn by Bankei Yotaku. His whole schtick is that the root cause of all suffering is preference for the self. He says that we're all born with a perfect Buddha mind, and as we are raised, it gets clouded and perverted. this page has a good section from the book:

    You’re probably all wondering what this unborn Buddha-mind is like.

    The Buddha-mind, unborn and illuminating all things with perfect clarity, is like a mirror, standing clear and spotlessly polished. A mirror, as you know, reflects anything that’s before it. Whatever’s placed in front of it, the shape never fails to be reflected, though the mirror has no idea or intention of doing so. And when the object is taken away, the mirror doesn’t reflect it any longer, though it makes no decision to cease reflecting.

    Now that’s just how the unborn Buddha-mind works. You see and hear all things, no matter what they are, although you haven’t generated a single thought to see or hear them, because of the vital working of the unborn Buddha-mind each of you receives at birth.

    Once you’ve got the principle of this Unborn fixed in your minds, you’re Unborn whether you’re a man or a woman. You are always unborn. You go along living in the Buddha-mind quite unconscious of being a man or woman.

    Although you each have Buddha-minds, you’ve deprived yourselves of them because of the mistaken way that you’ve been brought up. A lifetime of learning the wrong things. You still have a Buddha-mind, for all the bad things you’ve learned and the delusions your thoughts create for you. You can’t possibly lose it. It’s just darkened by the illusions caused by your selfish desires and partiality.

    Perhaps a comparison will help make this clear.

    The sun shines day after day without fail, yet if clouds appear to make the sky overcast, it can’t be seen. It still comes up in the east every morning and goes down in the west. The only difference is that you can’t see it because it’s hidden behind the clouds. The sun is your Buddha-mind, the clouds are your illusions. You are unaware of your Buddha-minds because they’re covered by illusions and can’t be seen. But you never lose them, not even when you go to sleep.

    The unborn Buddha-mind that your mothers have given you is thus always there, wonderfully clear and bright and illuminating.

    True story: I was one credit shy of being an East Asian religion minor.

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     

    i like the golden rule
    treat others as you would have them treat you

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     

    What about suicidal people? :shocked:

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     

    don't suicidal people either want help and understanding from others OR to be left alone so they can kill themselves?

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2007
     
    Posted By: jsimpleton

    i like the golden rule
    treat others as you would have them treat you

    Actually, GAMES magazine (now defunct, I think) tested several rules within games:

    The Iron Rule: do what you want, to whomever you want, whenever you want
    The Steel Rule: do what you want to screw your enemies, but help your allies
    The Golden Rule: treat others as you wish to be treated
    The Platinum Rule: treat others as they wish to be treated

    The more complex the game, the higher level rule you needed to use, in order to win.

    For instance, early "4X" games (explore, expand, exploit, exterminate), the iron rule was perfect.
    For Sim City, however, the Platinum Rule works.. the others tend to fail.
    Life is more complex than Sim City.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2007
     

    GAMES Magazine is still around. I've come in the top 5 in about 7 or so contests, but I've never won! I came in second once, and the winning answer used illegal words under the rules, but they wouldn't change their decision.

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2007
     

    Are there any official criteria to make an organization a religion?

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2007
     

    no clue. are you thinking of making one for tax exemption purposes? cause i would totally join

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      CommentAuthorD League
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2007
     

    No, just trying to keep this thread alive. :wink:

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     
    Posted By: jsimpleton

    no clue. are you thinking of making one for tax exemption purposes? cause i would totally join

    I dont recall chinese restaurant worker ever paying any tax...

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    not paying taxes is my own special way of protesting the iraq war

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    He said from cell number 8.

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     
    Posted By: D League

    No, just trying to keep this thread alive.:wink:

    this is the religion thread, it's destined to die. we should just give it a little dignity before it does

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    Do you think it'll go to thread Heaven or thread Hell?

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    Does it believe in JavaJesus?:angel:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    Hey Cody! Long time no type.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    It's nice to see you too.:crazy:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    You can see me?! :shocked:

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    Well...let's just say that I'm active in your personal life without you knowin'...:ninja:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    Ah. But, now I know.

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    I see what you're doin' mister!

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2007
     

    I think we've worn out religious stuff to talk about.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     
    Posted By: nyarfdude

    I think we've worn out religious stuff to talk about.

    Debate: Catholicism led to the fall of the Roman Empire.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Didn't the Romans just spntaneously dissapear?

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    No, they were overrun by fuzzy barbarians.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
     

    Crap, he's onto us, lads. :ninja:

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      CommentAuthorjsimpleton
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: cmseagle
    Posted By: nyarfdude

    I think we've worn out religious stuff to talk about.

    Debate: Catholicism led to the fall of the Roman Empire.

    my stance:
    corruption and internal strife led to the fall of the Roman Empire

    and incompetence (almost forgot that one)