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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Trance

    Anyway, the point was that it wasn't in Aramaic.

    How do you conclude that? Almost certainly the language of Jesus was Aramaic. He'd be preaching in Aramaic and Hebrew. In addition, as I said previously, the whole OT (by definition) predates Jesus as well as the Roman Empire. It also takes place apart from Greece. Those OT parts of the Bible would not have been written in Greek or Latin. (Latin became the official language of Christianity hundreds of years after Jesus.) There's good reason to believe at least parts were written in Aramaic.

    Posted By: Trance

    I should really start listening more in school.

    We do have some common ground.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     

    We can all agree that the Old Testament is Hebrew. As I recall, the New Testament was apparently written no earlier than 130 AD and was written in Greek.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Taed

    We can all agree that the Old Testament is Hebrew.

    Posted By: Fact totum

    There's good reason to believe at least parts were written in Aramaic.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007 edited
     

    That would be the New Testament that people would think was written in Aramaic. You're bordering on idiot if you think the Old Testament was written in Aramaic, although, admittedly, the language apparently existed at the time -- Aramaic came to be around 1000 BC and the Old Testament was written around 500 BC.

    Kick-ass God = Old Testament. Nice God & Jesus = New Testament.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Taed

    We can all agree that the Old Testament is Hebrew. As I recall, the New Testament was apparently written no earlier than 130 AD and was written in Greek.

    Well, most of the old testament. The apocryphal books were written in greek, but the first five books, the torah, were definitely in hebrew.

    Also, when i say the first bible was written in Latin, i mean the first COMPILED bible. The different books were originally written in greek/latin/hebrew/other stuff.

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      CommentAuthorFact totum
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2007
     
    Posted By: Taed

    You're bordering on idiot (sic) if you thing (sic)...

    Nice. Haven't seen much ad hominem here.

    Let's see.

    Here's an Idiotic source -- or one bordering on idiocy. (Search for "aramaic")

    And here's another border idiot.

    By the way, here's a citation that says the NT was translated to Greek from Aramaic -- which necessarily means the original wasn't Greek.

    There's plenty of citations available. Not that numbers prove accuracy, but the references are not incredible and don't seem to be idiotic.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    You're bordering on crazy if you cite sources in this thread!

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Everyone that comes to this site has a little crazy in them.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Isn't the mission of gullible.info to educate netizens the cautious use of information found on the Internet? Now you are trying to persuade people here with another piece of information you found on the net. You've committed the 8th sin. I vote ban FACT TOTUM.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    That's a little harsh isn't it?

    I feel another poll pandemic coming on!

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    We should have a courtroom thread, with all of us as the jury. Basically, whenever anyone was accused of malicious conduct or just plain bad behavior, we as a group could decide whether or not they were guilty. And each case, the defendant and prosecutor could choose a member to be their "lawyer"! That would be an awesome idea! To do that, we might need some sort of Instant Messaging module, though! What do you guys think?

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Sorry for being so off-topic there, but I think it would be a great idea!

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    That's a pretty good idea.

    I vote in its favour, even though I can predict with a fair assumption I'll be in it a not-so-fair amount.

    Maybe you should create it, Bubbles?

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    I could, but we would need to make certain rules, crime levels, and punishments, ranging from temporary banning to some sort of chore to permanent banning.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     

    Better dig out your thinking cap then! :P

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007 edited
     

    We should propose the idea to Legatissimo. That way the whole thing will be much fairer. Do you know his e-mail address, or should we just wait for him to come back to this thread, tell us off for derailing the thread, and then say it's a good idea?

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    Nyarfdude, congratulations. You just posted the 666th post in the Religious thread, making you the...*is suffocated by one Smilk Ormin before she can complete sentence*
    How did 6 become Satan's number anyway?

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007 edited
     

    I make it the 669th, are whispers counted ?

    And I think it's because the number 6 was mentioned as being evil/unlucky in the Bible, at least that what Gramma said.

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2007
     
    Posted By: nyarfdude

    We should have a courtroom thread, with all of us as the jury. Basically, whenever anyone was accused of malicious conduct or just plain bad behavior, we as a group could decide whether or not they were guilty. And each case, the defendant and prosecutor could choose a member to be their "lawyer"! That would be an awesome idea! To do that, we might need some sort of Instant Messaging module, though! What do you guys think?

    Seriously, please respond, Legatissimo! It would be so awesome to have a jury of Gullible Infoers!

    In response to:

    Posted By: Trance

    And I think it's because the number 6 was mentioned as being evil/unlucky in the Bible, at least that what Gramma said.

    In the original writing of Revelations, it was said that Satan's number (the number of evil) was 666.

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    Why? Is there a reason that 666 is evil?

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2007
     

    • Due to a slight mistranslation, Revelation 13:18 is usually written as "the number of the beast ... is 666", instead of the correct "... is 6 by 6 by 6." Hence, the number of the beast is 216, not 666.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2007 edited
     

    Wait, why would the old testament be compiled? the only part of the Old Testament which were actually put together before they the bible were the first five books, other than those, they were all compiled at the same time, with the new testament. Why would one half be greek and the other latin?

    and why do my posts keep appearing above others?

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2007
     

    I'm pretty sure that parts of the Old Testament were written in any of the following: Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew, but was compiled in Greek. The New Testament was written in Greek, Latin or Hebrew, but was compiled in Latin.

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2007 edited
     

    what a sophisticated way to say "no."

    Edit: LOL this post is suposed to be 2nd spot after legats. Go go Vanilla.

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    Two things:

    I was too lazy to read the whole thing (call me arrogant if you want) but the first paragraph implied you've read the entire Bible, have you?

    If you can't be troubled to read the post you're responding to, don't bother posting a reply. The point of a forum is to read and write, don't skirt your responsibility on one side of that equation.

    Seriously, please respond, Legatissimo! It would be so awesome to have a jury of Gullible Infoers!

    Juries and well and good for a democracy. But this is a benevolent dictatorship. I understand and respect your guys' input, and seriously consider what you think, but if this place has any chance of escaping into the moronic chaos that is the rest of the internet, it won't be by turning moderation decisions over to mob rule just quite yet. Maybe after the community has grown more, but not now. If you have concerns, email me (gullible@kylestoneman.com), or whisper a post to me and I'll do my best to resolve the matter. Now, back to religion...

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2007
     

    Thank you for responding, and I appreciate your consideration of the request. Maybe I'll try my jury idea with the members of my own site!

    Now, as you said, back to religion!

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      CommentAuthornyarfdude
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    Here's a good question: Are there religions that support homo/bisexuality? :twosome:

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    Haoism.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007 edited
     

    It's more of a hate the sin/love the sinner type deal, where most Catholic/Protestant churches are going to accept you as a member, but not encourage you to keep living the lifestyle.

    OK - this won't make much sense, as it ended up above Trance's post, which it should be below. How bizarre...

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     
    Posted By: nyarfdude

    Here's a good question: Are there religions that support homo/bisexuality

    There aren't any that reject homo/bisexuality. (To my knowledge, if there are please enlighten me.)

    Posted By: legatissimo

    Two things:

    I was too lazy to read the whole thing (call me arrogant if you want) but the first paragraph implied you've read the entire Bible, have you?

    If you can't be troubled to read the post you're responding to, don't bother posting a reply. The point of a forum is to read and write, don't skirt your responsibility on one side of that equation.

    I considered that after I posted that, and did read it all...

    I was in a weird mood that day, apologies.

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      CommentAuthorandresoforo
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: Trance

    There aren't any that reject homo/bisexuality. (To my knowledge, if there are please enlighten me.)

    Christianity (Both Protestants and Catholics)

    Post No. 680

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     
    Posted By: andresoforo
    Posted By: Trance

    There aren't any that reject homo/bisexuality. (To my knowledge, if there are please enlighten me.)

    Christianity (Both Protestants and Catholics)

    Post No. 680

    If a gay was to walk into a Catholic Church, and stated he was gay, he would not be asked to leave.
    The Catholic Church does not support, but does not reject the gay/bisexual community, I know because I am a confirned Catholic.

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      CommentAuthorTaed
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007 edited
     

    Uh, maybe your Catholic church, but there's lots of gay (and other) people unhappy with their rejection from their church. I just did a Google News search on "catholic church gay" and here's the first thing that came up. I suspect that isn't your church?

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    At the few different churches I have attended the policy was always that gays were welcome to attend, but not become members, at least not unless they were willing to renounce homosexuality. Rejection of people is not really part of the Christian doctrine, despite what some churches do.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    He has "Vader" for a name, I think they threw him out in fear they wouldn't know the power of the darkside, not because he was gay!

    No seriously... It's the teaching in the Bible to neither support nor reject gays. So if a Church does throw somebody out for being gay, it's obviously not a very good Church, so they did the gay couple a favour.

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    New Topic:

    According to Revelation, in the new heaven and earth, there will be no more sea.

    I think it's the first verse of chapter 21.

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     
    Posted By: sheepofdarkness

    New Topic:

    According to Revelation, in the new heaven and earth, there will be no more sea.

    I think its the first verse of chapter 21.

    Why? Is the sea evil?

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007 edited
     

    New Topic:

    What an elegant way of saying:

    I hereby derail:

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      CommentAuthorTrance
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    I detect some subterfuge here.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007 edited
     

    i think its mormens who totally hate gays don't they and are totally against them. my friend is a morman and he uses his religion as an excuse for hating gays, it works because if they say anything against him he can say they are racist and people would prefer to be homophobic than racist

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007 edited
     
    Posted By: critdragon

    i think its mormens who totally hate gays don't they and are totally against them. my friend is a morman and he uses his religion as an excuse for hating gays, it works because if they say anything against him he can say they are racist and people would prefer to be homophobic than racist

    I hate when people use religion as an excuse to hate people. On another note, tell your friend to slap himself a few times.

    EDIT: And tell him it isn't because of his religion, but just because he seems like an annoying person.

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    he is an annoyin bastard.. and he knows it.. but his religion does still teach that gays are wrong and evil etc.

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    I know this mormon who goes around slapping guy's asses (jokingly)

    maybe hes an exception

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      CommentAuthorcritdragon
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    maybe he's just not religious, the guy i know goes to church every weekday apart from tuesdays at 5am and on sunday aswell.

    there are too many people who claim to be religious but don't actually know a thing about their religion, that's just stupid.

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    Almost as stupid when people use religion as an excuse to hate people...

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    Trance! And other names that are to long for me to type out! I'm back!
    I originally was going to come back after a few days but on my laptop, I hit the wireless switch which turned
    off my internet for a really long time until I realized what happened and I was too lazy to come back and
    talk but it's all better now!:cry::cry:

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      CommentAuthorCody56
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2007
     

    What have you given up for Lent? I've given up swearing!

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    fuck that!

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    I am not catholic. :bigsmile:

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      CommentAuthorHaoest
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2007
     

    LOL i swear andres and esteban is the same mastermind behind the scene.