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    • CommentAuthordickenshit
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2006
     

    From October 10:
    • Ingens Dionaea Muscipula, an ancestor of the Venus Flytrap that dates back 15 million years was the largest known carnivorous plant on earth. It was big enough to digest a five foot tall man.

    Granting that there are going to be substantial gaps in what has been recorded and talked about on the internet, and that I'm no botanist and haven't been to the library about this, I find it mildly suspicious that a google search for "Ingens Dionaea Muscipula" returns only this website.

    Has anyone else heard of this plant?

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      CommentAuthorJoshuaU490
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2006
     

    I took a horticulture class in college, and according to the professor the Ingens Dionaea Muscipula was an enormous 30 ft tall plant. It was more like a prehistoric pitcher plant than a venus fly trap, although it did evolve into the much smaller venus fly trap. I remember it used some sort of scent, mabye pheromones, to attract large birds and small dinosaurs. They were expected to be able to digest around 50 pounds in about 24 hours, and only needed food about once a week.

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      CommentAuthorIllnab1024
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2006
     

    In addition, there will not be many references to this plant, for it was only recently discovered in fossils in the Atlantic Ocean floor, we do, however, know that this plant was large enough to most definitely digest a human, and likely contained enough gastric acid to digest even the toughest of meats. We do not know much about it yet, but we hope to learn more in the coming years.

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      CommentAuthorMonetdell
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2006
     

    id love if they made a clone of tht :devil: :surfing: :trompet:

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2006 edited
     

    Odd, how reality copies the arts once again. This kind of plant is similar to the one in Little Shop of Horrors... well, except I don't think it sang.

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2006
     

    That's funny, considering that when I first heard of this plant, all I could think of was "Feed me, Seymour, feed me now."

    Actually, I think it's a case of the arts copying reality. When I was in the theatre program at our Center for the Arts and Sciences, we performed the play. Part of our "job" as it was, was to watch the original LSOH movie (not the musical), and before we did that, our teacher gave us a bit of backstory. It seems that the original writer had studied prehistoric botany and when he heard about this plant, the idea for LSOH was born. Since he'd always wanted to be a writer, he quit his day job and worked day and night on the screenplay for the better part of a year, if I recall correctly. My theatre teacher didn't know the name of the plant, but this has to be it - how many other huge carniverous plants can there be out there?

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      CommentAuthorHushed
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2006
     

    Im wondering, would it be considered a plant? I mean if it gets energy from protien, not the soil, then wouldnt it be considered part of the animal kingdom?

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2006 edited
     

    I would think it would be classified as a plant, just as the Venus Flytrap is. My thinking is that the determining factor is its lack of mobility. I believe the flytrap also performs some photosynthesis, which would make it a plant as well, and since the assumption is that Ingens Dionaea Muscipula is a distant relative of the flytrap, that would also be a strong case for its inclusion into the plant kingdom. One further point is that they would have reproduced as plants, and not as animals, and therefore would also not be eligible to be considered animals.

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      CommentAuthorJoshuaU490
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2006
     

    They are carnivourious because they don't get enough energy from the sun and the soil. So Athene is right they do photosynthesize.

    • CommentAuthorcats.pal
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2006
     

    Well, looking at the anatomy of a venus fly trap, it is clearly seen that they don't have very many leaves. This would limit the photosynthesis the plant can perform. Therefore, it could be that it is the photosynthesis is in addition to the primary source of protein that allows the Ingens Dionaea Muscipula to survive.

    By this, its primary food source would be protein. This is a qualification for a carnivore. And, who ever said that only animals can be carnivores?

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      CommentAuthorUdoboy
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2006
     

    but they didn't survive... or not in their original state.
    Perhaps the plant had to tone down its carnivorous appetite at some point in the past in order to adapt

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      CommentAuthorAthene
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2006
     

    My personal theory is that as the larger prey animals became more suspicious of the plants (with good reason, one might add), the plants had to become smaller to be able to gather enough sustenance in the form of the much dumber insects.

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      CommentAuthorJoshuaU490
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2006
     
    Posted By: cats.pal

    By this, its primary food source would be protein. This is a qualification for a carnivore. And, who ever said that only animals can be carnivores?

    No one, it is classified as a carnivorous plant.

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      CommentAuthorMonetdell
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2006 edited
     

    the reason that it is a plant is because it mainly uses the protein when there is a lack of nutrients and minerals in the soil,also it doesn't hunt it traps.
    it's sounds more like the ancestor to a pitcher plant,as in it attracts and traps animals and insects then leaves them to rot with aid of it's acid which is similar to our gastric juice but quite a bit weaker,remember plants aren't just weak they are also made of weak materials,which unless proccesed or in the form of a tree would not be able to break down food(in the same way we chew as in).
    i think that actually the fly traps double up as leaves when traps are shut.

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      CommentAuthorJoshuaU490
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2006
     

    It is practically impossible for the Ingens Dionaea Muscipula to have the strength to support huge, jaw like leaves, much less use them. So it is obvious that it was a pitcher-like plant.

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    It is a plant because it produces asexually, as all plants do, and near to no animals except very very few (which are clearly animals) such as the female turkey - it can produce fertilized eggs without a male - but not as a basic reproduction measure, plants do, so if, as the venus fly trap does, it reproduces asexually, then it's a plant.

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      CommentAuthorkeir
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
     
    Posted By: FireDamagedGod

    It is a plant because it produces asexually, as all plants do, and near to no animals except very very few (which are clearly animals) such as the female turkey - it can produce fertilized eggs without a male - but not as a basic reproduction measure, plants do, so if, as the venus fly trap does, it reproduces asexually, then it's a plant.

    Are you saying plants only reproduce asexualy? If not sorry but plants also reproduce sexualy pollen ect...

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      CommentAuthorcmseagle
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2008
     
    Posted By: FireDamagedGod

    It is a plant because it produces asexually, as all plants do, and near to no animals except very very few (which are clearly animals) such as the female turkey - it can produce fertilized eggs without a male - but not as a basic reproduction measure, plants do, so if, as the venus fly trap does, it reproduces asexually, then it's a plant.

    Way to necro-post.

    And keir is right, plants reproduce sexually.